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olejoedad
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AUG 25, 10:19 AM
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williegoat
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AUG 25, 10:34 AM
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This is exactly the kind of “back to the basics” information that the left should read and consider. But I guarantee that as soon as they see the title, they will shift into defensive mode. They are not considering the ideas presented within, but rather gathering stones for their assault.
“It is just right wing propaganda!” or “Well, well….you did it, too!”
Everyone knows why, only some are being honest with themselves.
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fredtoast
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AUG 25, 10:38 AM
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Even AFTER he lost his case in the US Supreme Court he had fake delegates show up in Georgia to cast electoral college votes in his favor.
the Trump team gained unauthorized access to the voting system in Coffee County Georgia in an attempt to rig the election in Trumps favor
The argument that all of the actions he took were legal because his lawyers told him to is absurd. What if they had told him a human sacrifice was necessary for him to win the election? Would that justify murder?
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williegoat
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AUG 25, 10:41 AM
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cliffw
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AUG 25, 11:17 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by fredtoast:
Even AFTER he lost his case in the US Supreme Court he had fake delegates show up in Georgia to cast electoral college votes in his favor. |
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Which case before SCOTUS ?
Do you even know of the amount of times Presidential candidates have empowered alternate Electoral College delegates? Or how far back the practice go ?
I thought not !
| quote | Originally posted by fredtoast:
the Trump team gained unauthorized access to the voting system in Coffee County Georgia in an attempt to rig the election in Trumps favor |
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That's why I like you here. You do not know that. Where is your factoid source ?[This message has been edited by cliffw (edited 08-25-2023).]
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fredtoast
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AUG 25, 11:43 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
Which case before SCOTUS ?
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My mistake Trump v Raffensberger was was denied by The Supreme Court of Georgia in December 2020, but there was no appeal filed to SCOTUS.
Trump v Kemp was dismissed by a US District Court, but again Trump did not pursue an appeal.
There were multiple other cases filed by other parties contesting the election, but all of them had also lost by January 6.
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MidEngineManiac
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AUG 25, 11:47 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by fredtoast:
What if they had told him a human sacrifice was necessary for him to win the election? Would that justify murder? |
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Depends on who the sacrifice is. 
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fredtoast
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AUG 25, 11:49 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
That's why I like you here. You do not know that. Where is your factoid source ?
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Text messages from Jim Penrose, an assistant to Trump attorney Sidney Powell, discussing how to use the material they had illegally obtained. They were key evidence used to get the indictment.
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rinselberg
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AUG 25, 11:55 AM
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I want the former president to receive justice in all the court cases in which he is a defendant. The legal presumption of innocence unless proven guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. All the process that's "due." A "perfect" trial. Any convictions obtained, upheld upon appeal.
My personal opinion is that the U.S. Department of Justice (and now, the state of Georgia) are acting within their proper scope. That Jack Smith and Fani Willis are top drawer prosecutors that are bringing very strong prosecutorial cases to trial against the former president, while taking all the care that's expected to respect all of the defendant's rights as defendants.
If any of these headliner cases—Mar-a-Lago documents case, 2020 elections case (federal) and the "RICO" in Georgia—go to trial and are completed with jury verdicts, I predict the former president will be convicted on just about every criminal charge that he's been indicted for.
I don't think a prison sentence for the former president is out of the question.
If I were going to make an "ask" of the Make-a-Wish foundation, I would ask for an all expenses paid trip to wherever the former president is going to be confined, so that I can personally lock him into his cell or click the screen icon that begins his period of house arrest. (Another installment of "Home Alone"..?)
Failing that, I wish the federal government (or the state of Georgia) would raffle off this possibility to the general public as a fundraiser for the public treasuries.
I further wish that certain forum members (one in particular) would also receive a sentence of some confinement in a correctional facility or a period of house arrest.
Nothing too severe. Just for a period commensurate with the jaw-dropping rudeness, crudeness and idiocy that they displayed in enormous magnitude on this forum whenever I uttered an unkind or even just a neutral "word" about the 45th President of the United States, during the period prior to August 15, 2020, when Cliff Pennock made the decision to become a more reactive and a more proactive forum moderator.------------------
Viva la revolución del 15 de agosto
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82-T/A [At Work]
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AUG 25, 12:19 PM
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Basically... the Democrats have, for over 7 years now... done absolutely everything they possibly can to stop Trump. Thus far, every single thing they've claimed he's been responsible for (Russian Collusion, peeing on prostitutes, etc.) have all turned out to be false. With every single "We've got him now!" situation that starts off dramatic and knowingly fails miserably... I can only come to the logical conclusion that none of this is rooted in reality, and just intended to defame him.
In my last job, I worked to help subvert terrorist and dictatorship governments. All of the tactics that these governments would use against their own dissidents, are the very things this administration is using against Trump. So ... I can come to no other conclusion than everything that is being done has nothing to do with the rule of law, but in fact... for a different group who desires more than anything, to maintain power.
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