Senator Joe Manchin will not run for reelection. (Page 1/1)
blackrams NOV 09, 03:38 PM
Appears Joe has finally got the message from his constituents. He can't win again.

Won't be surprised if Manchin doesn't campaign with the No Labels party as a third party choice. This should give President Biden another reason to step down before he trips and falls again..

This is a good thing.

Rams

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82-T/A [At Work] NOV 09, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by blackrams:

Appears Joe has finally got the message from his constituents. He can't win again.

Won't be surprised if Manchin doesn't campaign with the No Labels party as a third party choice. This should give President Biden another reason to step down before he trips and falls again..

This is a good thing.

Rams





The good news (for us at least...) is that there are significantly more Democrat seats that are up in 2024 than Republican seats. There are a full 10 more seats on the Democrat side... 22 total that are up, versus 12 seats that are up for Republicans.

Of those 22 seats that are up for the Democrats:
- 3 of them area considered toss-ups.
- 4 of them only "lean" Democrat
- 3 of them are "likely"
- 12 of them are "safe"

On the Republican side, there are 12 seats that are up:
- 3 of them are "likely" (Note, Ted Cruz and Rick Scott are part of this)
- 9 of them are "safe"


So barring any magical upset... it's fairly unlikely that the Democrats will hold the senate in 2024, even if the Democrats win the presidency.
ray b NOV 09, 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
The good news (for us at least...) is that there are significantly more Democrat seats that are up in 2024 than Republican seats. There are a full 10 more seats on the Democrat side... 22 total that are up, versus 12 seats that are up for Republicans.

Of those 22 seats that are up for the Democrats:
- 3 of them area considered toss-ups.
- 4 of them only "lean" Democrat
- 3 of them are "likely"
- 12 of them are "safe"

On the Republican side, there are 12 seats that are up:
- 3 of them are "likely" (Note, Ted Cruz and Rick Scott are part of this)
- 9 of them are "safe"


So barring any magical upset... it's fairly unlikely that the Democrats will hold the senate in 2024, even if the Democrats win the presidency.



THE BAD NEWS IS

THE Gop is losing except in the deep reds
their religious crusade to subjugate women has failed at great cost
[like they thought all women want that ???]

they have not ever won a popular vote on abortion bans
that is a clue
your boys are more deluded the more the deplorable the ideas
your rump never wins the most votes
after convictions will get even less votes
and he will be CON-VICTED AND BROKE
blackrams NOV 09, 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

So barring any magical upset... it's fairly unlikely that the Democrats will hold the senate in 2024, even if the Democrats win the presidency.



That and hopefully the House gaining more Conservatives spells good things for this country. I have no doubts Biden won't be in the Oval Office after this next election,

Rams
82-T/A [At Work] NOV 10, 07:48 AM

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Originally posted by blackrams:

That and hopefully the House gaining more Conservatives spells good things for this country. I have no doubts Biden won't be in the Oval Office after this next election,

Rams




This is a pretty good recap that's only 2 weeks old:

https://news.yahoo.com/5-mo...seats-030000938.html


In short, I was a bit off on the numbers, there are actually MORE seats up on the left than I originally mentioned. THREE independent seats were not of the original 20 Democrat seats that are up. Obviously, Bernie isn't going anywhere. But Sinema is likely a goner. She'll be running as an independent, and they'll be siphoning votes away from each other, which almost assures a Kari Lake victory (unless Sinema is pressured to drop out, in which case it'll probably go Dem). This was before Manchin's statement the other day... so that's a for sure flip.

cliffw NOV 10, 08:33 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
So barring any magical upset ...



Let me edit that for you.


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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
So barring any magical election manipulation ...



Joe Manchin, he was not a leftoid. I have always found him to be in interesting political situation. Being a Democrat in a Republican dominated State, he had to be a moderate. However, he has disappointed many times.
blackrams NOV 16, 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by cliffw:


Joe Manchin, he was not a leftoid. I have always found him to be in interesting political situation. Being a Democrat in a Republican dominated State, he had to be a moderate. However, he has disappointed many times.



You may be right, I really don't care at this point. What I do see and care about is Manchin can cause Biden a whole boat load of issues if he runs for the Oval Office.

Manchin has indicated he wants to secure our southern border, that in itself will be a major issue for Biden and Harris. The Dems have their work cut out for them just trying to keep the gains they've made while they hold the Senate and Oval Office. Manchin will pull a lot of Dem and some Republican voters. This is great news for the US as a whole.

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Rams
Learning most of life's lessons the hard way. .
You are only young once but, you can be immature indefinitely.

Notorio NOV 23, 11:38 PM
Please, if you have it, point me to any objective evidence that shows Republican Leadership learned something, anything, from the 2018, 2020, and 2022 election underperformance debacles. They are second to none where infighting is concerned but for strategy and tactics seem always to play T-ball while Democrat leadership plays hardball. Please convince me ...
blackrams NOV 24, 06:44 AM

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Originally posted by Notorio:

Please, if you have it, point me to any objective evidence that shows Republican Leadership learned something, anything, from the 2018, 2020, and 2022 election underperformance debacles. They are second to none where infighting is concerned but for strategy and tactics seem always to play T-ball while Democrat leadership plays hardball. Please convince me ...



Well, it's pretty obvious the reversal of Roe V Wade has garnered a huge unification of Dem voters and if nothing else, the Republicans position on this needs to be modified somewhat, somehow to bring all Republicans, Independents and some Dems together on that issue. I don't have an answer the Republicans will all agree on. Being a Registered Democrat, I don't agree with quite a bit of the Dem platform/policies and therefore have not voted for a Dem for many election cycles.
Just one but a major example.

But, on the other side of the coin, the Dem leadership is starting to learn how Americans feel about our open southern border.

Rams.

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82-T/A [At Work] NOV 26, 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by Notorio:

Please, if you have it, point me to any objective evidence that shows Republican Leadership learned something, anything, from the 2018, 2020, and 2022 election underperformance debacles. They are second to none where infighting is concerned but for strategy and tactics seem always to play T-ball while Democrat leadership plays hardball. Please convince me ...



You're not wrong... and I suspect that's because many of them are OK with what's going on since as long as they are being enriched personally, they don't really care.