In 2017, VDH said something about Trump that looks rather ridiculous in retrospect. (Page 1/1)
rinselberg FEB 13, 11:33 PM
This was Victor Davis Hanson, in an article that was published in May of 2017, in the earlier days of the Trump administration.

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The real story of the Trump administration is not the messy firing of James Comey or the hysterical attacks on Trump by the media, or even his own shoot-from-the-hip excesses. Rather Trump, also like [the Roman emperor] Claudius, has assembled a first-rate team of advisors and cabinet officials.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Defense Secretary James Mattis, National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster, and Homeland Security Director John Kelly—and the dozens of professionals who work for them—comprise the most astute and experienced group of strategists, diplomats, world travelers, and foreign policy thinkers since the Truman and Eisenhower administrations.

Never have so many cabinet officers been given such responsibility and autonomy. It is unlikely that a Mattis or McMaster—outsiders who lack bureaucratic portfolios—would have ever held such office under either a progressive Democratic president or an establishment Republican one. A mercurial and unpredictable president gives a Secretary of Defense or State more leverage abroad than does an apologetic sounding and predictably complacent Commander in Chief. The result is a recovering military and a slow restoration of American deterrence abroad that will ultimately make the world safer and the need for America to intervene less likely.


Now flash forward to today.

Have Rex Tillerson, James Mattis, H.R. McMaster or John Kelly ever said anything laudatory about Donald Trump since they served in his administration?

If I said that all four of these men came to regard Donald Trump as a "moron," I don't think I'd be far wrong.

Rex Tillerson and John Kelly, for sure.

I'd have to "drill down" some on Mattis and McMaster, but I don't think they have any liking for Donald Trump, after having the experience of serving in a Trump administration.

I'm kind of putting this on the table in rough form, because if I want to, I can "drill down" on it at more length.


"Trump... our 'Claudius'"

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The president, like the Roman emperor, has been dismissed as a crude and crazy outsider.


Victor Davis Hanson for the Hoover Institution; May 31, 2017.
https://www.hoover.org/research/trump-our-claudius

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olejoedad FEB 13, 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

This was Victor Davis Hanson, in an article that was published in May of 2017, in the earlier days of the Trump administration.
Now flash forward to today.

Have Rex Tillerson, James Mattis, H.R. McMaster or John Kelly ever said anything laudatory about Donald Trump since they served in his administration?

If I said that all four of these men came to regard Donald Trump as a "moron," I don't think I'd be far wrong.

Rex Tillerson and John Kelly, for sure.

I'd have to "drill down" some on Mattis and McMaster, but I don't think they have any liking for Donald Trump, after having had the experience of serving in his administration.

I'm kind of putting this on the table in rough form, because if I want to, I can "drill down" on it at more length.


"Trump... our 'Claudius'"
[QUOTE]The president, like the Roman emperor, has been dismissed as a crude and crazy outsider.


Victor Davis Hanson for the Hoover Institution; May 31, 2017.
https://www.hoover.org/research/trump-our-claudius[/QUOTE]

For preservation before you edit.
rinselberg FEB 14, 12:17 AM
Preservation, eh?

That rings a bell.
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rinselberg FEB 15, 12:30 AM
Towards the end of Trump's final year as president—but months before Trump's Jan. 6 insurrection—Trump's former (and first) National Security Advisor, H.R. McMaster, reviewed President Trump's record from a foreign policy and national security perspective. McMaster summarized it (in so many words) as "Orange Man Bad."

MSNBC video content on YouTube: just under 10 minutes. Air date: September 24, 2020.
https://youtu.be/zmfuBVuOjnQ

As I pointed out at the top of this thread, H.R. McMaster was among the three top-level Trump administration appointees who were singled out by Victor Davis Hanson as evidence of Trump's historic benevolence and wisdom, when "VDH" compared Trump to the Roman emperor Claudius in a column that was published on May 31, 2017, about 4 months into Trump's first year in office.

"Connect the dots."



"Orange man bad. No, really. Vladimir Putin has been playing Trump like a second-hand fiddle." So said H.R. McMaster (in so many words) during an on-air interview on MSNBC on September 24, 2020.

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