Ex-F.B.I. Informant Is Charged With Lying Over Bidens’ Role in Ukraine Business (Page 1/3)
theBDub FEB 15, 08:05 PM
The “Biden Crime Family,” more like Lyin’ Slime Smirnov. Eh, that may be trying too hard.

NYTimes Gift Article

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IMSA GT FEB 16, 12:02 AM
At this point I don't know which family is more criminal, the Bidens or the Clintons.
Doug85GT FEB 16, 12:12 AM
If he lied, then prosecute him.

Wake me up when anyone gets prosecuted over the Steele Dossier and the years of fake Russia collusion accusations.
BingB FEB 16, 07:10 AM

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Originally posted by Doug85GT:

If he lied, then prosecute him.

Wake me up when anyone gets prosecuted over the Steele Dossier and the years of fake Russia collusion accusations.




Nothing illegal about Steele Dossier or the Russian collusion investigation. The allegations had to be investigated and there was actually evidence of possible collusion. Just not enough found to prosecute Trump.

That is exactly how the system is supposed to work. Legitimate allegations have to be investigated, but if they don't find enough evidence to prosecute then they don't prosecute.

I don't know why people think that serious accusations of collusion should not even be investigated. That is just crazy.
ray b FEB 16, 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by IMSA GT:

At this point I don't know which family is more criminal, the Bidens or the Clintons.



hint rump family wins by 2 BILLION THE S O B son in law scammed the saudi's for

and lets never blame the NUT- con BuSh2 for the depression

but after TODAY THE RUMPS WILL HAVE FAR LESS OF THEIR SCAMMED HOARD

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Doug85GT FEB 16, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by BingB:
Nothing illegal about Steele Dossier or the Russian collusion investigation. The allegations had to be investigated and there was actually evidence of possible collusion. Just not enough found to prosecute Trump.

That is exactly how the system is supposed to work. Legitimate allegations have to be investigated, but if they don't find enough evidence to prosecute then they don't prosecute.

I don't know why people think that serious accusations of collusion should not even be investigated. That is just crazy.



Nothing illegal happened? You are a stooge.

Lied on the FISA warrant
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12...i-conduct/index.html

Lied to investigators
https://thehill.com/policy/...riminal-referral-of/

Lied to Congress
https://www.judiciary.senat...y-of-steele-dossier/

Of course they investigated themselves and found that they did nothing wrong.
BingB FEB 16, 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by Doug85GT:


Nothing illegal happened? You are a stooge.

Lied on the FISA warrant




Former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith was charged and plead guilty for the improper FISA warrant.


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Originally posted by Doug85GT:
Lied to investigators
https://thehill.com/policy/...riminal-referral-of/





Don't know what this has to d with anything. McCabe was alleged to have lied about leaking anti-Clinton information during the 2016 campaign and the TRUMP DOJ refused to prosecute him over it.

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Originally posted by Doug85GT:
Lied to Congress

https://www.judiciary.senat...y-of-steele-dossier/




The Steele Dossier had nothing to do with starting the Russia investigation and none of the information in the Steele Dossier was used to support any conclusions in the Meuller report. All this crying about the Meuller report is a red herring thrown up by right-wing media.

The only thing it was used for was to get a FISA warrant and the person who did that was prosecuted and punished.

And my original point went over your head. The Russia investigation was 100% justified. The Steele Dossier was only relevant to one small issue involving a minor player. The person who misused the info was prosecuted and punished.

You have no injustice to cry about.

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Doug85GT FEB 16, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by BingB:
The Steele Dossier had nothing to do with starting the Russia investigation and none of the information in the Steele Dossier was used to support any conclusions in the Meuller report. All this crying about the Meuller report is a red herring thrown up by right-wing media.

The only thing it was used for was to get a FISA warrant and the person who did that was prosecuted and punished.

And my original point went over your head. The Russia investigation was 100% justified. The Steele Dossier was only relevant to one small issue involving a minor player. The person who misused the info was prosecuted and punished.

You have no injustice to cry about.




What started it all? The Steele dossier which was 100% a fabrication by the Hillary Clinton campaign. Everything else was the fruit of the poison tree.

What did Kevin Clinesmith get? A sweetheart plea deal from his buddies at the DOJ for no jail time and just probation.

Do you really think you can fabricate your own reality? That no one remembers what happened between 2016 and 2019?


All lies for years








More and more about our corrupt intel agencies keeps coming out.
rinselberg FEB 16, 12:30 PM
Our token MAGA-oids are clutching at straws.

There's an uncommonly large and "sprawling" investigation like the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane, which morphed into the "Mueller" probe. The MAGA-oids want you to think that if there are some missteps along the way by some of the investigators—even missteps that are crimes—then the entire investigation and all of its results should be rendered null and void—the fruit of a poisoned tree—or categorized as a "Deep State" conspiracy.

It's only the fruit of a poisoned tree if there's evidence that the investigative missteps were critical in arriving at any of the end products of the investigation... the indictments and the public reports that come from the investigation.

In this case, the investigative missteps are clearly incidental and of no consequence, in terms of the overall integrity of the Mueller investigation.

The MAGA-oids, of course, would never have the same attitude about an investigation that they liked because the targets were people that they don't like... such as Democrats.

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BingB FEB 16, 01:15 PM

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What started it all? The Steele dossier which was 100% a fabrication by the Hillary Clinton campaign.
Do you really think you can fabricate your own reality? That no one remembers what happened between 2016 and 2019?




Wrong. The Steele Dossier had nothing to do with starting the investigation. You have been duped by the right-wing media. You need to find a new source for your information.


The Russia investigation started because Trump campaign advisor George Papadapoulos bragged to an Australian diplomat, Alexander Downer, that the Russians had damaging information on Clinton before the hack of the DNC became publicly known. The Australian government tipped off the FBI.


You are the one fabricating your own reality, not me.

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