why religion is self proof of fraud (Page 1/9) ray b MAY 27, 12:23 PM if there was a GOD there would be a single religion with a real god backing that belief and the dumbest kid would know instantly the god wanted this belief instead every group gets to spin their very own belief their own way to fix the needs of that very group with NO HINT of any GOD favor or rebuke even a unified belief like the jewish/ christian/moslem the so called abramic based belief one god but very different names rules requirements FOR EACH CULT and not in just the big class beliefs even the jews are split orthodox with many subcults are not the same as reform cults or liberal or their conservatives and on top they have the hard core dress alike ultra orthodox cults with very strict rules no hint of any god favoring any one cult EVER christians are no better the big catholic/ greek orthodox split was just one of many before any official church there were arians and gostic and manasomethings with lots of others saul/paul was a early split war in the jewish church against the very family of JC how many different baptist cults are there from full natural submerged river dunkers to sprinkers from a dish with no hint of favor of the unseen unheard claimed god of the universe to any version of any cult so I see no need to study any religion THEY ARE ALL MAN MADE NO GOD INVOLVED IN ANY WAY SO CLEAR PROOF OF NO GOD again it is simple if there was a god there would be one single religion showing the favor and will of the god NOT the current every cult makes up their own rules requirements and ideas of gods will that is all MAN MADE AND HAVE BAD EFFECT ON GOVERNMENT williegoat MAY 27, 01:16 PM Speech doesn't exist because there are 7,000 different languages, all invented by humans. Describe "azure" and "vermilion" without metaphor or simile. BingB MAY 27, 02:11 PM quote Originally posted by williegoat: Speech doesn't exist because there are 7,000 different languages, all invented by humans. Describe "azure" and "vermilion" without metaphor or simile. You don't understand. Everyone agrees that "religions" exist. He is just pointing out that the gods they claim to be based on do not. williegoat MAY 27, 02:17 PM quote Originally posted by BingB: You don't understand. Everyone agrees that "religions" exist. He is just pointing out that the gods they claim to be based on do not. You are wrong, again. ray b MAY 27, 02:52 PM quote Originally posted by williegoat: You are wrong, again. SO SURE of that ? so there are 87948 gods goddesses and lessor spirits semi and demi gods also one for each cult ? or one very confused god trying to please everyone ? or finally understand they made it up with legend myths and tall tales mixed in witch cult is the most true trumpian ? can an atheist be maga or is a christian delusion a required precondition williegoat MAY 27, 03:16 PM Human speech existed before, and exists independent of, the human invention of language. The fact that you cannot describe a color to someone who does not already know color is an analogue. Your world is limited. Hamlet tried to explain that to Horatio. BingB MAY 27, 03:40 PM quote Originally posted by williegoat: You are wrong, again. Maybe I am. Which ones do you say are real and how can you tell? BingB MAY 27, 03:55 PM quote Originally posted by williegoat: Human speech existed before, and exists independent of, the human invention of language.. Exactly. We know this because we have evidence of speech that is separate from language. But there is no evidence of any god that is separate from the religion texts that created them. And that is why it is a "false analogy". Your logic fails. Doug85GT MAY 27, 05:45 PM If you are so sure there is no God, then why are you proselytizing for your atheism? There are no threads in recent years calling people to Christianity, Islam, Judaism or any other religion here. Yet you feel the need to call people to your atheism. What do you do to figure out if someone is an atheist? Nothing. They will go out of their way to tell you that they are an atheist. williegoat MAY 27, 06:32 PM Some are incapable of understanding anything that isn't directly in front of them. They cannot conceive of abstract concepts. I remember a film that I saw many years ago in college, in psychology class. The subject was a man who had a severed corpus callosum. Quite literally, his right hand did not know what his left hand was doing. It was fascinating.