... the only thing "Democrats care about is Joe Biden's electability." (Page 1/1)
82-T/A [At Work] JUL 03, 08:26 AM
This is right on point with everything I believe, and have been trying to exemplify. At no point do Democrat leaders actually care about the fact that unfortunately, President Biden is barely able to complete a full day at work. They're only concerned with the fact that they could lose power and control...


"What we're seeing here is a full-scale insurrection by media elites and other powers that be in the Democratic Party to subvert the democratic process. After all, we had 50 state primary elections in which voters gave Joe Biden all the necessary votes and delegates to be the Democratic nominee for President. You're seeing now a major effort to prevent the certification of that result. It's playing out in broad daylight in the press. So, I don't know what you could call this except an insurrection.

What democracy really means to them is permanent rule by the Democratic Party, just like communism used to mean permanent rule by the Communist Party. They're perfectly willing to disenfranchise their voters if it means staying in power. And that's exactly why they tried to hide Joe Biden's senility from the country for so long. What the country is now concerned about is Joe Biden's competency to do the job. What senior Democrats care about is Joe Biden's electability. That's the only reason they are suddenly concerned about his mental condition.

They knew all about Joe Biden's condition for months and years. They've been hiding that fact. They've been gaslighting about it. They've accused anyone who raised questions about it as somehow being a partisan or a liar. They invented the whole idea of clean fakes. No, this whole thing is driven by their concerns about Biden's electability. It's dangerous for the nation for the commander-in-chief to be clearly mentally incapacitated."

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williegoat JUL 03, 10:38 AM
At this point, everyone Right, Left, Democrats, Republicans, cowboys and Indians can be divided into two groups: those who knew it all along and those who need to be assigned a caretaker.

There have been some very bad ideas being floated by some on the left over the last two days.

Now, we need to pay attention and keep track of where everybody is going.
82-T/A [At Work] JUL 03, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

At this point, everyone Right, Left, Democrats, Republicans, cowboys and Indians can be divided into two groups: those who knew it all along and those who need to be assigned a caretaker.

There have been some very bad ideas being floated by some on the left over the last two days.

Now, we need to pay attention and keep track of where everybody is going.




Agreed... an enemy is most dangerous when they know that they're nearly defeated ... they will do literally anything because they have everything to gain, but everything to lose if they don't.
NewDustin JUL 03, 11:36 AM
This misses the forrest for the trees. Or maybe the trees for the forrest?

I don't doubt for a second that concerns for Biden's mental capacity have been forefront in Democratic Party leadership. It hasn't been a secret either; it's been a recurring segment for John Stewart since the beginning, and his viewership represents a significant Democratic voting bloc. Honestly, given the public performances of both candidates, Biden just appears to be winning the race to assisted living.

...but the Democratic Party leadership didn't select Biden any more than the Republican Party leadership selected Trump. Both candidates stretched their respective party's unity (including leadership), Trump by continuing to turn traditional conservatism on its head, and Biden by being questionably (at the time at least) fit for office. I feel like the debate answered that question. The strategic advantage Biden has by being incumbent is alone enough to thumb the scale significantly in his favor in terms of party candidate selection, and I don't think it's outlandish to believe they optimistically hoped to capitalize on that before his cognitive ability declined to the point it clearly has.

I think it's dangerous to segment the parties when looking at gamesmanship, though. You are absolutely correct that electability is all that matters, but winning is all either party actually cares about. The finger-pointing back and forth seems pretty clearly to me to be to be a thin veil over both parties outright agreeing to devalue election results to further their own control and power.

That's not both-side-ism, if it comes across that way. I'm not excusing what the parties do or justifying it in any way, just trying to characterize their actions rationally. I think the whole thing makes a hell of a lot more sense when you zoom out and look at it from 20,000 ft. If you sit on one side to watch the show you miss half the plot.

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BingB JUL 03, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by NewDustin: If you sit on one side to watch the show you miss half the plot.


Exactly. Electability is all either party cares about.

Biden was the sitting President so he was the presumptive candidate. That is the way it pretty much always works. Republicans would have done the exact same thing. That is why Mitch McConnell is still Senate Minority Leader.