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williegoat
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JUL 09, 09:10 PM
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Intel director reveals Iranian government-linked actors fund and incite anti-Israel protests on US soil
| quote | Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines on Tuesday issued a statement warning U.S. citizens of "concerning Iranian activity" and that Iranian government actors have sought to "opportunistically take advantage" of anti-Israel protests.
"Iran is becoming increasingly aggressive in their foreign influence efforts, seeking to stoke discord and undermine confidence in our democratic institutions, as we have seen them do in the past, including in prior election cycles," she said. "They continue to adapt their cyber and influence activities, using social media platforms and issuing threats."
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Who can tell me where Iran suddenly got all this money?
But, but, Trump said "pussy"!!! That is the exact same thing as treason!!!------------------
"Ain't no rest for the whiskers."
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williegoat
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JUL 09, 09:21 PM
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randye
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JUL 09, 10:12 PM
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rayb-ies will be here shortly to tell us all how the Ayatollah Sayyid Ali Khamenei "owns" Trump. [This message has been edited by randye (edited 07-09-2024).]
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NewDustin
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JUL 10, 01:05 AM
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Wait, I missed it. All this money to...sign up for free social media accounts and make targeted posts? And who are you suggesting all this money to acquire free services came from? This confused me.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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JUL 10, 07:02 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by NewDustin:
Wait, I missed it. All this money to...sign up for free social media accounts and make targeted posts? And who are you suggesting all this money to acquire free services came from? This confused me. |
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So, you didn't read the article, or you don't understand what he's talking about.
1 - Money used to organize protests (signs, U-Haul rentals, on-site coordinators, etc.) is not a free resource.
2 - Money used to pay the people in Iran who are spreading the information on Social Media is not a free resource.
3 - Money used to pay for the internet access for the people in Iran who are spreading the propaganda is not free.
4 - Intelligence coordination within the Ministry of Intelligence (Iranian's Spy Agency) is not a free resource.
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williegoat
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JUL 10, 07:27 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
So, you didn't read the article, or you don't understand what he's talking about.
1 - Money used to organize protests (signs, U-Haul rentals, on-site coordinators, etc.) is not a free resource.
2 - Money used to pay the people in Iran who are spreading the information on Social Media is not a free resource.
3 - Money used to pay for the internet access for the people in Iran who are spreading the propaganda is not free.
4 - Intelligence coordination within the Ministry of Intelligence (Iranian's Spy Agency) is not a free resource. |
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Generally, before a form a conclusion, I check more than one resource. Often, I post one link as an example, in the interest of expedience.
Some articles mention that some of these "social media personalities" are being paid for their time by Iran.
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williegoat
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JUL 10, 07:31 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
rayb-ies will be here shortly to tell us all how the Ayatollah Sayyid Ali Khamenei "owns" Trump.
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Doubtful, too many letters/syllables.
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williegoat
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JUL 10, 07:52 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
Some articles mention that some of these "social media personalities" are being paid for their time by Iran. |
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I think most understand that Russia and China do the same thing.
I would not be surprised to find that the USA influences Americans, in a roundabout way.
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BingB
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JUL 10, 08:35 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
So, you didn't read the article, or you don't understand what he's talking about.
1 - Money used to organize protests (signs, U-Haul rentals, on-site coordinators, etc.) is not a free resource.
2 - Money used to pay the people in Iran who are spreading the information on Social Media is not a free resource.
3 - Money used to pay for the internet access for the people in Iran who are spreading the propaganda is not free.
4 - Intelligence coordination within the Ministry of Intelligence (Iranian's Spy Agency) is not a free resource. |
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Irans GDP is over $400 million. It is one of the 40 richest countries on the planet. I am pretty sure they can scratch up a few thousand dollars for some poster board for signs and a few people on the internet.
This is not a weapons program. This is not funding any army. This is how countries use their money efficiently to attack rich countries like the United States.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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JUL 10, 09:32 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:Irans GDP is over $400 million. It is one of the 40 richest countries on the planet. I am pretty sure they can scratch up a few thousand dollars for some poster board for signs and a few people on the internet.
This is not a weapons program. This is not funding any army. This is how countries use their money efficiently to attack rich countries like the United States.
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It's easy to armchair when you don't know anything about this... but it's not as simplistic as you think.
For one, to organize protests (from Iran) in another country many thousand miles away... and have it scale to multiple states, multiple colleges, and multiple venues all at the same time, requires a lot of funding and resources to coordinate. This is many millions of dollars, just to organize, make pay-offs, recruit, and facilitate this. That doesn't even cover the mass-production of signs at the local printers, across all the different protests, and do it in such a way that there's little to no tie-back to Iran directly.
Internet propaganda also isn't at all what you think it is. When Russia did this, it wasn't just a bunch of Russian fan-boys that all hopped on Twitter and started trashing the U.S.. It's highly coordinated. That affort was 100s of millions of dollars, much of it funneled through what was called the Internet Research Agency in St. Petersburg... https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...rnet_Research_Agency
You can be sure that Iran is likely doing something similar... and that it's not just a bunch of Ayatollah fans on X and Facebook at-will spouting off. The propaganda is carefully coordinated to ensure proper propagation to increase the viral-nature of it. None of these people are free (EDIT: free labor), despite it being a dictatorial country. This costs money, not only for the infrastructure to do it, but the planning, intelligence, and coordination.
For a country who's GDP is $400 million (I'll take your word for it), this is a large undertaking and not something they hand their credit card over for without looking at the bill. This doesn't even address the fact that they're doing the same thing in Europe, and probably also (to a lesser degree) the rest of Asia and South / Central America.[This message has been edited by 82-T/A [At Work] (edited 07-10-2024).]
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