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blackrams
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AUG 28, 10:07 PM
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California legislature passes bill banning voter ID laws
https://www.thecentersquare...c6-03a19f4f4791.html
| quote | (The Center Square) - The California legislature passed a bill banning local governments from adopting voter identification laws for local elections. California does not require identification to vote, but earlier this year, the City of Huntington Beach approved a voter ID requirement for municipal elections starting in 2026. This bill would override Huntington Beach’s policy.
“An overwhelming body of evidence proves that voter ID laws only subvert voter turnout and create barriers to law abiding voters,” wrote bill author State Sen. Dave Min, D-Irvine. “To register to vote in California, voters are already required to provide their driver's license number, California identification number, or the last four digits of their social security number.”
State Assemblymember Bill Essayli, R-Corona, introduced a failed amendment to the bill, SB 1174, that would have explicitly banned undocumented immigrants from voting.
Undocumented immigrants are able to secure California identification numbers, and noncitizens are allowed to vote in local school board elections in San Francisco. Huntington Beach’s neighboring City of Santa Ana is considering following San Francisco’s lead; a November ballot measure would allow noncitizens to vote in all, not just school board, municipal elections in the city.
California Attorney General Rob Bonta sued Huntington Beach for its ordinance, claiming it violates state and federal law because most elections involve voting for municipal, state, and federal office at the same time. Bonta also argued the ordinance’s requirement that ballot drop boxes be monitored by video could dissuade voting.
Huntington Beach argues that the fact legislators introduced SB 1174 suggests that was, in fact, permissible for its voters to approve such an ordinance. As a charter city with greater rights under the state constitution, the city is likely to pursue legal options to defend its ordinance against the law, if it is signed by the governor. |
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And the beat goes on...................
How much more WOKE can they go?
Rams 
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blackrams
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AUG 29, 06:34 AM
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California lawmakers pass bill that could make undocumented immigrants eligible for home loans
https://www.aol.com/news/ca...could-023220345.html
The insanity continues..................
Apparently, the WOKE never did well in math. There's only so much money to go around and yet, CA continues to pass laws that allow "Illegal Immigrants" to have access to funds they don't deserve nor have they earned such benefits. Those who are US Citizens will most certainly be left holding the short end of the stick. How CA citizens put up with this is beyond me.
More of the same, buying votes for Democrats. 
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Rams
Learning most of life's lessons the hard way. . 
You are only young once but, you can be immature indefinitely.[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 08-29-2024).]
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olejoedad
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AUG 29, 07:53 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
California lawmakers pass bill that could make undocumented immigrants eligible for home loans
https://www.aol.com/news/ca...could-023220345.html
The insanity continues..................
Apparently, the WOKE never did well in math. There's only so much money to go around and yet, CA continues to pass laws that allow "Illegal Immigrants" to have access to funds they don't deserve nor have they earned such benefits. Those who are US Citizens will most certainly be left holding the short end of the stick. How CA citizens put up with this is beyond me.
More of the same, buying votes for Democrats.
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Didn't you know?
Money isn't real, it's only numbers on paper!
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Doug85GT
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AUG 29, 11:05 AM
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It boggles the mind. You must show a non-expired photo ID to do many important things in life. Yet when it comes to selecting the people who will wield political power over us and make the laws which are enforced ultimately with death for non-compliance, the Democrats actively fight against something as basic is verifying the voter's identification before casting a ballot.
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BingB
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AUG 29, 11:35 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Doug85GT:
It boggles the mind. You must show a non-expired photo ID to do many important things in life.. |
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But there is a huge difference between your "right" to rent a hotel room and your "right" to vote.
Voter ID laws don't solve any problem. There is no proof of widespread voter fraud involving people voting in place of other registered voters.
But they do supress voter turnout among the poor. This benefits Republicans. That is why courts have struck down many laws requiring photo ID to vote.[This message has been edited by BingB (edited 08-29-2024).]
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blackrams
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AUG 29, 12:00 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
Voter ID laws don't solve any problem.
But they do supress voter turnout among the poor. This benefits Republicans. .
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As a Poll Manager for quite a few previous elections, I would argue that Voter ID Laws do in fact make the whole process go easier and virtually eliminates the vast majority of suspicious votes that need to be verified. This assumes that the authenticating authority is actually doing their job. Reference who benefits, all candidates regardless of party affiliation benefit by having less suspicious/unauthentic votes and reduces recounts (except in very close elections). Any qualified citizen can get a Voter ID if they want one. Suppressed turn out is a result of those who really don't give a damn until it appears their candidate might not win. Voter IDs are easily obtained if one qualifies and desires to have one.
While the laws do vary somewhat from state to state, what it takes qualify and get a Voter ID is ridiculously simple if one wants one.
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Rams
Learning most of life's lessons the hard way. .
You are only young once but, you can be immature indefinitely.[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 08-29-2024).]
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BingB
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AUG 29, 12:11 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
all candidates regardless of party affiliation benefit by having less suspicious/unauthentic votes and reduces recounts. |
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But only one party benefits from suppressing the vote of the poor.
Since there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud the law serves no purpose other than to benefit Republicans.
In order for a person to commit fraud in the manner he would first have to know the name of a registered voter that he knew would not vote. It is impossible to do this on any large scale. And that is why there has never been any proof of it happening on a wide scale.
That is why Courts that have studied the issue far deeper than just the random opinion of a poll manager have stricken down many voter ID laws.[This message has been edited by BingB (edited 08-29-2024).]
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blackrams
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AUG 29, 12:18 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
But only one party benefits from suppressing the vote of the poor.
Since there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud the law serves no purpose other than to benefit Republicans.
In order for a person to commit fraud in the manner he would first have to know the name of a registered voter that he knew would not vote. It is impossible to do this on any large scale. And that is why there has never been any proof of it happening on a wide scale.
That is why Courts that have studied the issue far deeper than just the random opinion of a poll manager have stricken down many voter ID laws.
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Your opinion is noted. But, you know what they say about opinions.
I can only imagine the issues arising with bus loads of unregistered voters show up to vote at the polls in states not requiring Voter IDs. Yes, we know that happens a lot. We also know where that happens and what party does this.
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Rams
Learning most of life's lessons the hard way. .
You are only young once but, you can be immature indefinitely.[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 08-29-2024).]
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BingB
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AUG 29, 12:30 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Yes, we know that happens a lot. We also know where that happens and what party does this. |
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Actually we know it does NOT happen a lot.
And since Republicans were the last party that got busted actually cheating by ballot harvesting in a federal election (not make believe accusations on the internet, but actual real criminal convictions) then I assume you are talking about them. If not then give me the info that you have that I do not.[This message has been edited by BingB (edited 08-29-2024).]
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blackrams
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AUG 29, 12:40 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
Actually we know it does NOT happen a lot.
And since Republicans were the last party that got busted actually cheating by ballot harvesting in a federal election (not make believe accusations on the internet, but actual real criminal convictions) then I assume you are talking about them. If not then give me the info that you have that I do not.
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OK, believe what you will. But when even the WOKE national news shows it on their broadcasts, it must not be true.
Rams
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