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williegoat
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SEP 18, 12:05 PM
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Error with tracking citizenship puts nearly 100,000 Arizona voters’ eligibility in limbo
| quote | The eligibility of nearly 100,000 registered voters in Arizona is up in the air because of an error in state systems uncovered just before the scheduled sending of mail ballots, Secretary of State Adrian Fontes announced on Tuesday.
The state incorrectly marked these voters when they registered to vote as already having provided documented proof of U.S. citizenship, when really, it’s unclear whether they have, Fontes said. |
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There is no point in explaining this to the children. Either you care or you don't.
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"Ain't no rest for the whiskers."
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NewDustin
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SEP 18, 12:33 PM
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I'm having a really hard time figuring out what exactly you're upset about here. This only impacts Arizona residents who have a driver’s license from the State of Arizona, and have had the same driver’s license since 1996. A few direct quotes from this article:
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The voters affected by this particular error are people who first obtained their Arizona driver’s license before October 1996 and then were issued a duplicate replacement before registering to vote sometime after 2004, according to Fontes.
It’s unclear why no one noticed the error sooner, Fontes said, but it’s been occurring for roughly two decades and over four administrations.
There is no evidence of widespread noncitizen voting.
The roughly 97,000 voters who were incorrectly marked in the state’s voter rolls lean more heavily Republican, Fontes said, and many are between 45 and 60 years old.
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Is the idea that they're stealing the vote in 2024 by having done insufficient ID checks on a bunch of Republicans in 2004, then sleeping on it for two decades?[This message has been edited by NewDustin (edited 09-18-2024).]
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ray b
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SEP 18, 04:34 PM
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so the Gop wants to stop 100k of citizen's from voting ?
in case a few are not properly with proof
instead of finding and charging a few who are not citizens and do actually vote
so you want 100,000 citizen's not to be allowed to vote even if registered for years ?
typical voter obstruction by the con's
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olejoedad
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SEP 18, 05:57 PM
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The GOP wants only US citizens to vote, as they have maintained for decades.
Contrast that with the actions and rhetoric of the DNC.
Now, who is the real threat to democracy?
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ray b
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SEP 18, 07:48 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
The GOP wants only US citizens to vote, as they have maintained for decades.
Contrast that with the actions and rhetoric of the DNC.
Now, who is the real threat to democracy? |
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the one stopping 100,000 people from voting
and not doing the bit harder job of catching the very very few illegals who voted
so 1000 people are stopped to prevent one single illegal non citizen
from voting or 10,000 to 1 that is insane
you could have a point IF there were real proven numbers of illegal who are registered to vote
you boys looked hard and several times an found very few to less then that
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NewDustin
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SEP 18, 08:10 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
The GOP wants only US citizens to vote, as they have maintained for decades.
Contrast that with the actions and rhetoric of the DNC.
Now, who is the real threat to democracy? |
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In this particular instance the discrepancy happened over a 20 year period that included 2 Democrat and 2 Republican governors' administrations. The original driver's licenses in question were issued under a Republican governor. The issue was discovered, and is being resolved, under a Democrat governor. I don't think this particular issue has anything to do with one party or the other, rather with poor public administration.
If what you are worried about is noncitizens voting, what about the direct statement in this article that it there's no evidence of it here?
Given Willie's use of "funny business" and his history of insisting on deep state conspiracy voting fraud in 2020, the apparent goal here doesn't seem to be addressing anything about the actual issue (a 20-year old mistake that has benefitted Republicans if it has benefitted anyone), but rather an I'll-take-anything-I-can-get-without-even-reading-it approach to developing a narrative that the 2024 election was also stolen from Trump. Soon we'll have the folks insisting there's some sea creature-sized revelation coming, but we all know how that ends.
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BingB
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SEP 18, 09:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
There is no point in explaining this to the children. Either you care or you don't.
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Translation "I have no idea what it says but my right-wing propaganda sources told me it was proof that the democrats are trying to steal the election"
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olejoedad
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SEP 19, 08:57 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
Translation "I have no idea what it says but my right-wing propaganda sources told me it was proof that the democrats are trying to steal the election"
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Yawn.
Your words have no meaning.
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cliffw
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SEP 19, 09:07 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Yawn.
Your words have no meaning. |
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He meant the Dumbs did not want to ensure a safe election.
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williegoat
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SEP 19, 12:17 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
There is no point in explaining this to the children. Either you care or you don't.
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
Translation "I have no idea what it says but my right-wing propaganda sources told me it was proof that the democrats are trying to steal the election"
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Nearly 100K Arizonans could be impacted by error in voter registration system
| quote | Richer says the majority of the affected voters are most likely U.S. citizens: they just don't have documented proof. The largest group of them are Republicans, followed by independents and Democrats. Most of the people affected are between the ages of 45 and 60, and over 60% of them are in Maricopa County.
The recorder's office wants these people not to be allowed to vote on a full ballot – which includes federal, state and local elections – but instead, a federal-only ballot which includes only federal elections, the president, U.S. senator and U.S. House of Representatives.
"The Secretary argues that it is too close to the election to implement such a change and that it would be unduly burdensome on voters and deprive them of their voting rights. That is why we are going to the courts. To get a clear answer," Richer wrote on X.
"Every single one of these voters has met the minimum criteria in swearing an affirmation, under penalty of perjury that they would have to do, to vote in every election across the United States of America. Only Arizona has this, what I think is an unreasonable extra burden on its voter," Fontes said. "This happened because we have policies that are being driven by conspiracy theories. And we have for a long time." |
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So, now you can see that Richer and Fontes are conspiring to punish conservatives for daring to require proof of citizenship for voter registration.
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