2005 3.5 Starter comparison to the 1987 2.8 Starter (Page 2/4)
Patrick JUL 26, 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by Inferno:

This is the biggest difference between the two starters. The power connections. You will need to use the Stock plug and wires from the 3.2L Starter and splice it into the 2.8L Starter lines.




That looks like a nuisance. The two 3800 starters I picked up did not have a weird wiring terminal like that 3.5 starter.
Bridgetown JUL 26, 09:17 AM
I used a starter from a 2002 3400, it has the same weight and dimensions, but with normal electrical connections.

You can see a picture of mine on this page of my build thread
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...1/HTML/071783-2.html
Inferno JUL 27, 12:09 PM
I agree it will could be a PITA for someone. So what we now know is that the starter is physically the same for the 05 Impala but the connection is different. I would suggest then to people to go with the 3400 or 3800 starters unless a confirmed 3500 starter from a specific line of GM cars can be confirmed.
theogre JUL 27, 12:28 PM
This version needs a plug.... (Archive version doesn't.)
Try http://www.dormanproducts.com/ for new plug # then order thru many parts stores.

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peteyz24 JUL 31, 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by Patrick:


Might want to check out this archived thread Here.

I picked up two starters last weekend from the local Pick-a-Part for $17.95 apiece from a couple of 3800 engines, one SC and one NA.

The SC starter (1.7kw) is a tiny bit longer than the NA one (1.5kw).

The NA one will go on my duke, the SC one on my Formula.




The 1.7kw starters that autozone's website has listed for a 98 grand prix say that they have 11 teeth on the pinion with while the lower powered ones say they have 9. I know the stock fiero has 9. was just wondering if the website is right about the 11 teeth or not. One would think that if the 1.7kw has 11 teeth it wouldnt work.

Patrick JUL 31, 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by peteyz24:

The 1.7kw starters that autozone's website has listed for a 98 grand prix say that they have 11 teeth on the pinion with while the lower powered ones say they have 9. I know the stock fiero has 9. was just wondering if the website is right about the 11 teeth or not. One would think that if the 1.7kw has 11 teeth it wouldnt work.



That's a valid concern, but...

There are several threads here covering the use of 3800 starters on Fiero (2.5 and 2.8) engines. I advise you to look them up for peace of mind, but I recall reading that 11 teeth on the starter was not an issue.

peteyz24 JUL 31, 07:58 PM
Thanks for your reply. I have read a couple of the archived swap threads but niether had discussed the pinion gear tooth difference. I will read some more. Once again, thanks
Blacktree JUL 31, 11:02 PM
I installed the 1.7 kW starter in my Fiero, and it works great. I didn't take the time to count the gear teeth on the pinion, though.

The archived thread that Patrick posted has a link to my starter install thread, as well.
trotterlg AUG 01, 12:36 AM
If it bolts up it will work. The slop in the teeth on all of these will allow them to be happy. Just take care to shim them properly, that is why they provide the shims. Larry
peteyz24 AUG 01, 10:16 AM
Thanks guys. I found a 1.7 at the local recycler for $51. After 28 years I believe my starter has decided it is done living. Cranks the engine fine when its cold, hot it barely turned the engine and overheated the ground cable.