Nonexistent clutch slave cylinder bracket and release arm 4 Speed Muncie (Page 2/3)
lyleap-gmc AUG 15, 05:35 PM
The slave cylinder in the posting above is not like the slaves that came with the car. What I have is the flange mounted cylinder. I don't have a cylinder with the mounts on the side. Just to add to the confusion. The auto parts stores show the side mounted cylinder for a 1984 with the 4 cylinder engine.

I can't even begin to guess what the cylinders that came with the car belongs to. There is a NIB cylinder and a very used cylinder.

Lyle
Patrick AUG 15, 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by lyleap-gmc:

The auto parts stores show the side mounted cylinder for a 1984 with the 4 cylinder engine.



Well... that stands to reason, as the side mounted slave was what originally came on the 84's.
lyleap-gmc AUG 15, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

Well... that stands to reason, as the side mounted slave was what originally came on the 84's.



Using that cylinder would make the mount simpler but finding one is not so easy.

I have to wonder why there are two flange mounted cylinders with the car. One is new, one is used.

It appears from the collection of parts with the car that someone was trying to get it running. Then they found out the engine is locked up. Someone had even taken the bolts out of the cradle.

The more I dig into this clutch situation the more confused I get.

I think I will wrap a string around the release shaft and run it to the driver's seat. Pull hard to release the clutch.

At this point I really don't care what the car had when it came from the factory. It is a work in (no) progress.

A link to Rodney disclosed that he also was looking for help with a slave bracket.

The area where the slave cylinder would mount has no bolts or bolt holes other than the transmission to engine bolts.

The responses to my quest for information indicate that there is no one solution to this problem. The almost correct answer depends greatly on the phase of the moon.

I will continue me quest for the Holy Grail. It is out there somewhere.

Lyle
Patrick AUG 15, 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by lyleap-gmc:

A link to Rodney disclosed that he also was looking for help with a slave bracket.



And that thread is nine years old. He may've made some progress since then.

The other option is to investigate the slave and bracket used on the '85 to early '86 V6 with the Muncie 4-spd transmission.
fierosound AUG 16, 05:29 PM
I was at a wrecker today. Got the bracket and slave off a 1984 4-speed.
I grabbed the slave too because it looks fairly new - unlikely the original.
Didn't leak, fluid was clean and hydraulic line came out easily.

Didn't realize you needed the arm as well (it's the layered steel piece - not cast).
Could go back and get that too...

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fierosound AUG 16, 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by lyleap-gmc:

Does anyone have a picture of the 1984 clutch slave bracket? I am confusing everyone and I am getting confused as well.

In looking again at the transmission I see no bolts or bolt holes other than the transmission to engine bolts. Is that where the slave bracket mounts?




Post a picture of clutch area and top of the transmission YOU HAVE...
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/063783.html


From the 1984 Factory Service Manual (you should get one).

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lyleap-gmc AUG 16, 09:35 PM

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Originally posted by fierosound:

I was at a wrecker today. Got the bracket and slave off a 1984 4-speed.
I grabbed the slave too because it looks fairly new - unlikely the original.
Didn't leak, fluid was clean and hydraulic line came out easily.

Didn't realize you needed the arm as well (it's the layered steel piece - not cast).
Could go back and get that too...






Hi fierosound,
That is awesome. I will have to check my car to see if that is a fit. I did look yesterday and didn't see any bolts not used or bolt holes that were vacant. I will look again. The pictures are very helpful. Don't make a special trip for this. If I know the parts are available I can proceed with work on the car.
Thank you,

Lyle

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lyleap-gmc AUG 17, 02:21 PM
Images of Transmission Area



This is the back or flywheel end of the V6 that I intend to install in the car.
None are at all great!

Does one end of the bracket shown above attach to one of the transmission bolts with a nut?


I'm getting close.

Thanks to everyone.

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fierosound AUG 17, 02:35 PM
The clutch slave bracket only makes sense when you see engine and transmission bolted together.

The slave bracket has one bolt going to a corner of the head of the 4-cylinder above top left transmission bolt.
The other bolts to the transmission itself into a "speed nut" kind of thing.

You show it in one of your pics below the slots for the transmission cables.

I took this picture and also got the clutch arm that was there.






On the V6 - I'm sure this is where one end of the slave bracket would bolt to above the same top left transmission bolt.

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lyleap-gmc AUG 17, 05:13 PM
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