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theogre
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FEB 14, 09:22 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
At highway speeds, incandescent bulbs are just fine.
I don't drive twice the speed limit after dark, requiring me to blind the people coming at me.
Gee, I didn't realize that copper wire wore out from low voltage and amperage conditions.
My house is 50 years old, has copper wiring and 120volts.
Maybe I should rewire it because copper wire wears out?
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Wires don't "wear out" but part will "rust" or rot, get loose hardware and more can and will cause problem in any vehicle and any building and be worse for old cars and houses.
Let's see...
You likely have loose plugs and iffy switches in the walls because someone buys cheapest parts on the planet. Worse if some fool actually uses spring load back wiring and not screws on sides.
50 year old breakers and no-one check the load center for loose hardware, rust/rotten parts, warm or hot breakers.
Yup and far worse then those, house build in 60's to 70's even some in 80's often have Aluminum Wire for everything and plugs etc not made for it either right from the start or after when nubes "fix" whatever. Or splice Al to Copper wires directly.
But here's is the rub... Most problems that Al wiring "famously" have can happen to copper wire. And most homes have above problems and many are far Far worse and waiting to burn down.
Plus many to most homes in a given area w/ "Copper wire" often have some items w/ Aluminum. Electric Stoves and Driers are common examples since the 60's and maybe earlier. Most "service entry" wire from breaker to pole/pedestal is large gauge aluminum.
Just 1 iffy ground in a car is enough to cause low volts, ground loops, and more causing E-motors and controls to pull amps and burn out, bogus codes, etc.
Fiero w/ problems at G101 G102 and S103 can hose most front lights, HL motors and Radiator Fan and relay(s)/module for them at minimum.
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IMSA GT
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FEB 14, 10:42 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cyrus88:
Here you go: PHILIPS H6054LED, on Rockauto for $137.79.
Edited: Sorry I couldn't get the link to Rockauto to work.
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I wonder if they're legal in all 50 states. I know the Sylvania bulbs are only available for use in Canada. Interesting that Philips took the plunge and went into the LED market.
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tnkgnr
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FEB 15, 12:09 AM
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fierosound
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FEB 15, 01:18 AM
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Review...
[This message has been edited by fierosound (edited 02-15-2021).]
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theogre
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FEB 15, 03:04 PM
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Again, while Amzn and others w/ same ad text Claim is "DOT approved" pictures and text shows sign is counterfeit like far too many others and "Dot Code" mention in Text can be stolen. Is cover in another thread but...
Pictures has DOT SAE ECE {the (Ex) x is 1 of number tells what ECE standard used} marks like many counterfeits, Missing the "Code String" and Logo/Name of Manufacturer.
Go look at any car or three even new cars and look for string of letters and numbers usually along bottom of lens to see how done. Note: Some new "cars" w/ aero HL have "DOT" data on top of HL assem not on lens. Does make you open the hood but Not taking part(s) off to see. Just ignore them for now.
Also see Truck-lite.com etc and look are "Sealed beam" Halogen and LED replacements for their marking.
Examples:
Truck-lite 27009 Code is DOT 0V0H SAE HR 01 HB2 NS-2212S, Top at Top of Lens, w/o standalone logo/name
Truck-lite 27450C Code is DOT SAE HL 11 w/ Trucklite and TOP at Top of Lens.
(Ignore H6054 and others true Sealed Beams in same format as uses "old" marking format on lenses w/ DOT, 2B1, Sealed Beam, Top and Logo/Name and just where is up to maker.)
Then look at your LED. While strings won't match to others, They must have a code on the lens to be legal. You can't remove trim or lock ring to look. String must be easy to see w/o do that. Code may have something to say manufacturer or logo/name someplace else on the lens.
If you don't see the code string molded on the lens then that Light and "Ads" pushing they are Frauds.
Most aftermarket Sealed Beam replacement have logo/name somewhere in/on the lens. GE Phillips Trucklite and many more have done this as part of advertising.
Most OEM "aero style" to fit body shape most often have logo/name/"DOT"id as part of code string.
The string and other marks Must be Permanent molded in/on the plastic/glass. Not a sticker etc attach to them later.
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tnkgnr
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FEB 15, 08:09 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by theogre:
Again, while Amzn and others w/ same ad text Claim is "DOT approved" pictures and text shows sign is counterfeit like far too many others and "Dot Code" mention in Text can be stolen. Is cover in another thread but...
Pictures has DOT SAE ECE {the (Ex) x is 1 of number tells what ECE standard used} marks like many counterfeits, Missing the "Code String" and Logo/Name of Manufacturer.
Then look at your LED. While strings won't match to others, They must have a code on the lens to be legal. You can't remove trim or lock ring to look. String must be easy to see w/o do that. Code may have something to say manufacturer or logo/name someplace else on the lens.
If you don't see the code string molded on the lens then that Light and "Ads" pushing they are Frauds.
Most aftermarket Sealed Beam replacement have logo/name somewhere in/on the lens. GE Phillips Trucklite and many more have done this as part of advertising.
Most OEM "aero style" to fit body shape most often have logo/name/"DOT"id as part of code string.
The string and other marks Must be Permanent molded in/on the plastic/glass. Not a sticker etc attach to them later. |
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It seems like you're suggesting the ones I bought are counterfeit or fraud. I don't see where that is coming from. The DOT number is etched into the lens. There are thousands of positive reviews. They've been on the marked for three years now. I would imagine just one person getting pulled over and given a citation that these were not approved would have the whole thing shut down immediately unless Amazon wanted to become legally liable for every set sold from that point on. I don't want to hijack the thread - if you've got another where you've covered this, I'll gladly take the link! 
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Gall757
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FEB 15, 09:50 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by tnkgnr:
if you've got another where you've covered this, I'll gladly take the link!
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LED Headlights??[This message has been edited by Gall757 (edited 02-15-2021).]
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theogre
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FEB 15, 11:38 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by tnkgnr:
It seems like you're suggesting the ones I bought are counterfeit or fraud. I don't see where that is coming from. The DOT number is etched into the lens. There are thousands of positive reviews. They've been on the marked for three years now. I would imagine just one person getting pulled over and given a citation that these were not approved would have the whole thing shut down immediately unless Amazon wanted to become legally liable for every set sold from that point on. I don't want to hijack the thread - if you've got another where you've covered this, I'll gladly take the link!  | | CLICK FOR FULL SIZE |
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If you read their "ad" and many others you're see why looks counterfeit. More so w/ the pictures posted w/ the text. Even "side by side" pic saying "legal" shows both HL w/ bogus markings...
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Thanks for finally post a picture of Actual product showing DOT code. That's what I asked for in the other thread link above.
Some doubt has "Origial Osram chips" but for the price for the pair most won't care if that's true or not.
While could be "counterfeit" and the Marking are still "bogus" is up to NHTSA and others to enforce it. Most people including most Courts and Many in "high places" can't tell is fake at that point. Does Code look molded into the plastic or is it really laser or other wise etched? Even if etch Very Few people can't tell real or fake w/o going having NHTSA saying one way or the other. If NHTSA say Fake months to years latter will be a Recall. Like has done w/ other aftermarket taillights etc.
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tnkgnr
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FEB 16, 12:04 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by theogre:
While could be "counterfeit" and the Marking are still "bogus" is up to NHTSA and others to enforce it. Most people including most Courts and Many in "high places" can't tell is fake at that point. Does Code look molded into the plastic or is it really laser or other wise etched? Even if etch Very Few people can't tell real or fake w/o going having NHTSA saying one way or the other. If NHTSA say Fake months to years latter will be a Recall. Like has done w/ other aftermarket taillights etc. |
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The markings appear to be etched on the inside surface of the lens. Thanks Gall, for the link.
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Spadesluck
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FEB 16, 12:55 AM
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Get them, don't get them...it's your vehicle. I have the aforementioned "unliked" LED's. Mine work just fine after a few years of use. No I did not check the DOT markings before purchasing them.
This is what I have: LED
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