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Fienix
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SEP 05, 12:53 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
So often the only issue preventing a starter from functioning is...
1) weak battery
2) poor connection(s) between positive battery cable and the starter and/or to the battery itself
3) poor connection(s) between negative battery cable and engine block (ground) and/or to the battery itself
(See This thread, and specifically This post.)
4) faulty battery cable(s)
To use that remote starter switch, you'll still need to access the starter (as that's where the solenoid is located).
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Sorry for the super delayed reply here. Life got busy for a while there and I didn't have the time or motivation to work on the car at all.
I had the battery tested at AutoZone and everything was good there. I cleaned the terminals off again as well. I snipped the clutch pedal switch connector off and twisted the wires together with a wire nut. I also got the remote starter switch from Harbor Freight and tried to jump the starter with that (assuming I hooked it up correctly...one click to positive battery post, the other to the S terminal on the starter solenoid). I also checked the 3 amp crank fuse and it looks fine. Still no luck. When I reconnected the battery today and first attempted to start, I did hear a very brief sound like it was trying to start, and then nothing. I was reading another post on here about the grounds from the battery to the engine block...I know I have an oil leak (probably valve cover gasket) so maybe that ground has gotten grimy with oil, could that perhaps be an issue?
Is there anything else I can try? Are there any other fuses I should check? Would ICM/distributor/coil be possible issues? I'm getting pretty discouraged about my ability to fix this.[This message has been edited by Fienix (edited 09-05-2022).]
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Patrick
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SEP 05, 05:59 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Fienix:
I was reading another post on here about the grounds from the battery to the engine block...I know I have an oil leak (probably valve cover gasket) so maybe that ground has gotten grimy with oil, could that perhaps be an issue?
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It shouldn't be an issue if you cleaned the ground connections like I suggested earlier.
How did you check your battery cables?
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Fienix
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SEP 05, 06:31 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
It shouldn't be an issue if you cleaned the ground connections like I suggested earlier.
How did you check your battery cables? |
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Admittedly I have not checked the all the grounds yet. I didn't really know where to look. There's one right next to the battery, one to the engine block, where else do I need to check?
How would you check the battery cables? Just visually inspect them? The car is gettting power so it seems like the cables themselves are not a problem...or could there still be an issue?
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Patrick
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SEP 05, 06:44 PM
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It's probably more of an aptitude than an attitude problem that you have, but there's no point asking for advice if you don't follow it. If you don't understand what's been suggested, then perhaps google the suggestion to see how it's done.
I'm not trying to be an ass, but you're going to have to demonstrate some initiative here.
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Fienix
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SEP 05, 07:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
It's probably more of an aptitude than an attitude problem that you have, but there's no point asking for advice if you don't follow it. If you don't understand what's been suggested, then perhaps google the suggestion to see how it's done.
I'm not trying to be an ass, but you're going to have to demonstrate some initiative here. |
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I'm sorry, it's admittedly an aptitude problem. This whole thing has me feeling kind of stupid, I'm trying but like I said this is all new territory for me and finding the time/energy to work on this has been difficult. I really do appreciate all your advice so far. I will spend some more time checking the ground and battery cables and go from there.
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Rick Vanderpool
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SEP 05, 10:44 PM
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Since you have eliminated the clutch switch, I suggest you pull the starter and have it tested before spending effort on anything else.
Rick
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sanderson231
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SEP 06, 06:34 PM
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If you put a remote starter switch on the starter solenoid and you have "no crank' then it is a staerter problem. Starters can get flaky - work when they are cold but no crank hot. ------------------
formerly known as sanderson
1984 Quad 4
1886 SE 2.8L
1988 4.9L Cadillac
1988 3800 Supercharged
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Patrick
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SEP 06, 08:44 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Rick Vanderpool:
I suggest you pull the starter and have it tested before spending effort on anything else.
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| quote | Originally posted by sanderson231:
If you put a remote starter switch on the starter solenoid and you have "no crank' then it is a starter problem.
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Keep in mind that in the first post we were informed of the following...
| quote | Originally posted by Fienix:
...while they had the car they said it didn't want to start anymore so they also replaced the starter.
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Rick Vanderpool
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SEP 06, 11:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Keep in mind that in the first post we were informed of the following...
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fienix:
...while they had the car they said it didn't want to start anymore so they also replaced the starter.
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That doesn't mean the new starter is good. I have replaced a failed starter with a new failed starter in the past.
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Patrick
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SEP 06, 11:58 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Rick Vanderpool:
That doesn't mean the new starter is good.
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I don't disagree... but I'd still suspect 38 year old battery cables (and/or their connections) over a one year old starter.
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