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Patrick
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MAY 22, 05:10 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ArthurPeale:
I'm trying to use the hangers that came with it. When I was at the Fiero Store talking to the fine folk there, they showed me a another set of hangers 85-87 V6 Tail Pipe Hanger for an additional fee - but stated that they weren't necessary, the included hangers would work.
In the interests of saving the $40 on their word that I wouldn't need them, I passed.
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Even those $20 apiece hangers look weak. Remember, you no longer have any springs supporting the weight of the exhaust system!*
Compare them to the skookum Walker hangers I posted above that cost me $4 apiece (at the time). At least double the strength! I'd be interested in seeing the build quality of the hangers that came with the Ocelot exhaust. Can you post a photo of them?
*From Rodney Dickman's site...
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NOTE ON EXHAUST HANGERS: The original Fiero exhaust systems and the exhaust hanger(s) are held in place with several springs. With more and more non OEM exhaust systems being installed today, many do not have the brackets required to reattach the factory springs in the correct locations if at all. In addition to this, many aftermarket exhaust systems weight more than the OEM systems.
The exhaust hangers are not designed to hold the complete exhaust system up. If you do not have the factory springs installed you must provide additional support for the muffler and exhaust pipes or the rubber piece(s) will fail.
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[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 05-22-2023).]
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ArthurPeale
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MAY 23, 09:24 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Those holes in the cradle
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I didn't indicate holes in the cradle. I said,
| quote | | There are holes where the wheel well liner bolt in that might be used for that purpose |
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And, we're on the same page on those hanger add-ons - they won't break right away, but they will break. They're supplemental.
The hangers that were INCLUDED WITH PURCHASE look nearly identical to the ones you used - but the end is different. I'll see about posting a photo of them later.
One guy on Facebook took his to a muffler shop, where they cut off the brackets on the OEM muffler and welded them to the new muffler. Might do that, might just fab one out of sheet metal. I just don't understand why the new muffler -doesn't- have the brackets. Even the pipe that comes off the cat has a spring mount - they could have done something similar with the muffler and then it would essentially be plug and play.
this is my second foray into anything even remotely exhaust related, so before I do something I'll regret, I'll ask a ton of questions first, and then follow through.
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Patrick
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MAY 23, 10:31 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by ArthurPeale:
I didn't indicate holes in the cradle. I said...
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I wasn't suggesting you did. I was giving you further information.
| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Those holes in the cradle are probably where the factory exhaust hangers attached.
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sleek fiero
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MAY 23, 11:14 AM
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I installed my ocelot system 5 years ago . what i did was salvage all the spring hangar brackets and welded them to my new system . I did this to allow flex to prevent cracks in the system. I also got rid of the clamps on the joints and welded them. It fits and looks good.
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ArthurPeale
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MAY 23, 11:40 AM
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Google Image hopping gave me this photo of the brackets - and, some insight.
the brackets aren't as "flat" as I thought. To be fair, I was exhausted after a long day of work and couldn't see the forest because there were so many trees in the way.
Luckily, they're in my van (I'm at work ATM) so I popped out real quick to take a look. Yep - curved. The radius of the curve matches the bracket, but not the "U"
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Patrick
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MAY 23, 05:55 PM
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Since those are nothing like the factory hangers, you'll probably be drilling holes... unless you get lucky and can make use of existing holes somewhere.
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gregr75
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MAY 23, 07:58 PM
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I didn't pay attention to the hanging scheme when I was taking apart my car… But do I have ocelot system? How is it different from stock?
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ArthurPeale
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MAY 24, 11:40 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by gregr75:
I didn't pay attention to the hanging scheme when I was taking apart my car… But do I have ocelot system? How is it different from stock?
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Hard to tell. Where the mounting brackets are on the muffler, the pipes are in the way, on that photo. But I think it might be, yes.
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