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Stilltrack80011
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OCT 18, 01:20 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
So you had the ALDL jumper in place while you used a timing light?
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No, but during that time, when we was putting the distributor in my grandpa was helping me with it and he rebuilt the engine beforehand, told me that as long as it was very close, it would start and run, run bad but it would run
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Stilltrack80011
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OCT 18, 01:23 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
We're supposed to guess. 
I suspect it's the 2.8... but you never know!
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It is the 2.8, my bad for not Specifying
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Patrick
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OCT 18, 02:16 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Stilltrack80011:
...as long as it was very close, it would start and run, run bad but it would run
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Why not do it properly? All you need is a paper clip... and a timing light of course.
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buddycraigg
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OCT 18, 04:21 AM
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If you hear the fuel pump run for a few seconds when you first turn on the key, then we will assume the fuel system is working.
Do you have a timing light to verify the ignition system is working?
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olejoedad
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OCT 18, 06:57 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Stilltrack80011:
No,.....
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That's your problem.
The ECU is adjusting the timing, the ALDL must be jumpered to time the engine.
Good question Patrick.
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ArthurPeale
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OCT 18, 12:30 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
We're supposed to guess.
I suspect it's the 2.8... but you never know!
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I thought all SE were the 2.8------------------
Arthur Peale
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Jake_Dragon
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OCT 18, 02:15 PM
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After replacing the Distributer you have to get it close.
Find TDC and adjust the distributer so spark plug one is pointed to the number one plug on the distributer. That should get you close enough so the car will run then you can use the timing light to get it set correctly after its running with the jumper in place.
Finding TDC is the trick. You can pull the valve covers and watch the intake valve and verify the timing mark is correct. Pull the spark plug and use a soft rod and slowly rotate the crank until you know you are at TDC
Setting your initial timing will get you in the ball park until you can get it running and timed correctly.
Balancer marks can shift that is why its important to verify TDC and not just trust the mark on the balancer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8H54pKeNEc
its a SBC but its the same process.
Good luck
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Patrick
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OCT 18, 06:26 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ArthurPeale:
I thought all SE were the 2.8
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That is incorrect... which is why it ticks me off when people state they have an SE and expect us to know what engine they have.  It's not a GT. It's not a Formula.
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fierosound
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OCT 19, 12:46 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
Pull the spark plug and use a soft rod and slowly rotate the crank until you know you are at TDC |
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The piston is also at TDC on the exhaust stroke...
I pull spark plug #1 and stick my finger in there as I manually turn engine with ratchet/socket.
When I feel the pressure building, I bring the timing mark up to 10* on the pointer. Reinstall plug.
(you could use a compression tester if you have one)
Then I remove distributor cap to make sure the rotor is pointing to #1 plug wire and they are in correct order 1-2-3-4-5-6
Always starts 
(unless it's a fuel or ECM issue)
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Spoon
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OCT 23, 07:46 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Why not do it properly? All you need is a paper clip... and a timing light of course. |
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Just make sure it not like these. Results may vary.... Hint... plastic coated.
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