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Patrick
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MAY 03, 11:23 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Please don't tell people they can't do something.
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I'm not telling anyone what to do. I'm pointing out the potential issues that may or may not be apparent to someone who is unfamiliar with the job at hand. The structural integrity of a car does more than keep it in one piece while it's sitting in its owner's driveway. Lack of structural integrity could mean death of the car's occupants in the event of a collision, or even from just hitting a large pothole while travelling at speed. IMO, you're being totally irresponsible downplaying the potential consequences of an improper repair of a rusted out rotted car frame.
It's possible the OP's newly acquired Fiero isn't all that bad. If that's the case, great. If not, I'm glad I've spoken up.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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MAY 04, 09:12 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
I'm not telling anyone what to do. I'm pointing out the potential issues that may or may not be apparent to someone who is unfamiliar with the job at hand. The structural integrity of a car does more than keep it in one piece while it's sitting in its owner's driveway. Lack of structural integrity could mean death of the car's occupants in the event of a collision, or even from just hitting a large pothole while travelling at speed. IMO, you're being totally irresponsible downplaying the potential consequences of an improper repair of a rusted out rotted car frame.
It's possible the OP's newly acquired Fiero isn't all that bad. If that's the case, great. If not, I'm glad I've spoken up. |
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Nonsense... the upper frame rails only provide additional lateral rigidity, and support quarter panel mounting, they aren't even important for overall suspension or alignment of the car's chassis, other than to support the spring seats. They have almost nothing to do with impact protection except to nominally [laterally] brace the actual box frame, which they don't even attach directly to except through thin sheet metal and the strut mount. You can cut them out entirely and drive the car around, which is what happens with many kit car installations where a new suspension is installed.
You said,
| quote | Repairing a rusted out hulk (like the one I linked to above) is not a job for someone "trying to teach myself how to work on cars".
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No disrespect to anyone in this thread... but having a novice welder/fabricator tackle a job that involves the structural integrity of a motor vehicle is a fool's game.
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You could have just said...
"Make sure you have someone double-check your work to ensure you maintain the integrity of the frame."
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Vintage-Nut
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MAY 04, 11:30 AM
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Wow - you guys are "jumping the gun"!
Without Coffeevgirl's photos, you're arguing something that MAY or MAY NOT be true.
Again, wow..... ------------------
Original Owner of a Silver '88 GT
Under 'Production Refurbishment' @ 136k Miles
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82-T/A [At Work]
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MAY 04, 12:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Vintage-Nut:
Wow - you guys are "jumping the gun"!
Without Coffeevgirl's photos, you're arguing something that MAY or MAY NOT be true.
Again, wow.....
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Haha... that was my "trigger," being told I (or someone) can't do something. I can't tell you how many dumb hobbies I've picked up because someone said to me, "You need an expert to do that."
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olejoedad
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MAY 04, 01:15 PM
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I've done extensive rust repair on rotted out Fieros.
The only safe way to replace rotted metal is with OEM stampings removed from another car.
They must be removed by drilling out the OEM spot welds with a spotweld cutter tool and rewelded at those points.
As Patrick so aptly pointed out, structural integrity of the repair is very important.
I would point out that spaceframe response to a collision is more important, and the ONLY way to achieve that is by using OEM panels, welded in the OEM places.
The DIY sheet metal repair is not safe in a collision.
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IMSA GT
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MAY 04, 02:48 PM
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Fight, Fight, Fight
By the way, where is Miss Coffeevgirl?[This message has been edited by IMSA GT (edited 05-04-2024).]
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Patrick
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MAY 04, 05:08 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
You could have just said...
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The manner in which I expressed my opinion is just fine the way I originally chose to present it.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 05-04-2024).]
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Vintage-Nut
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MAY 04, 05:30 PM
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Fight, Fight, Fight |
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Stingray92
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MAY 04, 09:49 PM
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Why bother!
To the OP. Go for it...
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Patrick
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MAY 11, 02:12 AM
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Looks like Coffeevgirl decided to have a latte instead.
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