Pictures of my 84 project (Page 3/8)
fierosound NOV 01, 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by The_Stickman2:

... you can drop that compression ratio by using a thicker gasket. That is what my builder was going to do.



That was my original intention until the compression test showed only 92psi.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...070315-2-076520.html

[QUOTE]Originally posted by The_Stickman2:

... I think the only way to get to a 3.3L Super Duty engine was with maximum bore and the crank used to get 3.0L. It is my understanding that they only made three different stroke cranks.




As far as I could find out, finished cranks could be bought in 3.00", 3.25", 3.50" and 3.75" strokes. With the standard 4.000" bore, these would give you approximate displacements of 2.5L, 2.7L (Indy #1), 2.9L and 3.1L respectively.

It looks like GM also had an unfinished forging that could be custom ground. Shows as PN 10027777 in the Super Duty book. I think this is what went in here with a custom ground 3.9375" stroke. The block had to be ground for the connecting rod throws to clear and the oil pan was hammered out a bit for clearance.

Simple calculation works out to about 3.3L

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Dennis LaGrua NOV 03, 08:49 PM
A very interesting and unusual Fiero. I'll bet you can't wait to get it running and back on the road. Not too many super duty Fieros out there it seems. I've always believed that Pontiac should have built the Indy with the SD4 engine but they cheaped out and went for a looks only model.

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KurtAKX NOV 03, 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by The_Stickman2:

It is my understanding that they only made three different stroke cranks.




Five cranks according to my Pontiac Performance Plus from 84/85

Raw Forging 10027777
2.60" stroke 10042835
3.00" stroke 10027778
3.25" stroke 10027779
3.625" stroke 10041859
3.9375" stroke 10041860
fierosound NOV 04, 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by KurtAKX:

Five cranks according to my Pontiac Performance Plus from 84/85

Raw Forging 10027777
2.60" stroke 10042835
3.00" stroke 10027778
3.25" stroke 10027779
3.625" stroke 10041859
3.9375" stroke 10041860




Thanks for clearing that up. Information seems to be sketchy in some sources.
The_Stickman2 NOV 04, 02:19 AM

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Originally posted by KurtAKX:


Five cranks according to my Pontiac Performance Plus from 84/85

Raw Forging 10027777
2.60" stroke 10042835
3.00" stroke 10027778
3.25" stroke 10027779
3.625" stroke 10041859
3.9375" stroke 10041860



I stand corrected
FastIndyFiero NOV 04, 02:22 AM
Good to see all of this going to someone who appreciates it and can make it work
I have a question on the pushrod guides, do they appear to be modified stock units?

Any questions give me a PM.

Nate
cujoe_da_man NOV 04, 03:33 AM
I noticed your buttons were a bit "stained", if you still have them, they clean up real nice with those Armor All cleaning wipes, then the Armor All protectant wipes. The ash tray covers in mine were grey... but with a bit of cleaning with both of those... they turned black

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Fiero.1 NOV 04, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by fierosound:
These Webers should get a few people excited.




I thought this setup looked familiar, is this the same Indy Chester was selling back in 2006? Looks like the same engine.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...070315-4-032634.html


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Originally posted by chester:
fierosound NOV 04, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by Fiero.1:

I thought this setup looked familiar, is this the same Indy Chester was selling back in 2006? Looks like the same engine.




Yup. This is THAT car. Since it "needs a new starter" and couldn't be started and driven onto a trailer, I had a tough time finding someone to trailer it all the way to Calgary.

What was most surprising is how worn out and terrible the condition is for a car with ONLY 19,000 miles. AND I was never told that it had been previously damaged in an accident. I definitely expected better and was misled to believe I was getting it. The pictures he posted are from when when HE bought the car 3 years earlier. It appears the car had been sitting exposed to the weather afterward - hence the deterioration, and why we see no newer pictures.

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KurtAKX NOV 04, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by Fiero.1:

I thought this setup looked familiar, is this the same Indy Chester was selling back in 2006? Looks like the same engine.



Yeah, this is the same car. Chester really dicked the purchaser. He bought this car for $2500, sold the original Indy seats, 3 of the 4 sets of wheels it came with, let it sit unprotected for 3 years, intentionally omitted several mechanical and body issues with the vehicle, and then offered it up for $8500 without the slightest bit of guilt.

Link to where the car was purchased for $2500
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...030819-1-027967.html

Fierosound is too mature / levelheaded to start a big flame war about it on the forum, but I'll tell you this. I wouldn't ever buy anything from Chester without looking it over in person after seeing this. Actually I might not even then.
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Bump for progress. What are you doing for a 4T60 setup- are you going 4T60E?
What chain and diff ratios are you using?
I'll be watching this since my Pace Car is missing 2nd gear and I want OD anyway.

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