2005 3.5 Starter comparison to the 1987 2.8 Starter (Page 3/4)
trotterlg AUG 01, 07:38 PM
The bearing wear out and the parts rub together inside when they get hot. Things will be better now. Larry
Patrick AUG 01, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by peteyz24:

I found a 1.7 at the local recycler for $51.



That seems a little high for a used one, but as long as it's good, you're in business.
TopNotch AUG 01, 11:13 PM
The starter for a 1998-2000 Grand Am (among other GM cars) can replace a Fiero starter directly, with no change in wiring needed. Here's a comparison picture:
lou_dias AUG 02, 06:59 AM
Anyone got a weight difference between the 3500 starter and the older 3400 starters?
Francis T AUG 02, 06:11 PM
Just tip on how to make Fiero starters last longer. Whereas they are quite close to exhaust components and thus heat, I cover mine with self-stick heat shielding. Jegs and Summit carry the stuff, cost about $9..
peteyz24 AUG 03, 04:53 AM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

That seems a little high for a used one, but as long as it's good, you're in business.



You are correct. When I stopped in to pick it up it was only $35 with a 60 day warranty. Cheaper than Orielly's core charge on a reman

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fierosound MAY 26, 11:33 AM
I got a 1.7 kW from a 2006 Grand Prix 3800 S/C
No wiring plug needed. Just wires up as stock.

You have to go by vehicle AND engine.
For the most part, the newer cars up to 2007 with 3800 S/C have the 1.7 kW.
You have to remember the starter is also turning the Supercharger.

AC Delco 336-1915A Rating 1.7 kW
(I counted 9 teeth on the starter gear)
Vehicle list if your shopping at Pick n Pull like me
http://parts-catalog.acdelc...g=5561&parttype=3252

Here's a pic of the 3 different GM starters for comparison - Left to Right.
Stock, a 1.5 kW (11 teeth on pinion gear) and 1.7 kW (9 teeth on pinion gear) I just got which is the smallest.



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Patrick MAY 26, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by fierosound:

Stock, a 1.5 kW and 1.7 kW (right) which is the smallest.



Tony, I'm just double-checking on that as it doesn't seem to jive with what I found a few years ago (and posted earlier in this thread).


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Originally posted by Patrick:

I picked up two starters last weekend from the local Pick-a-Part for $17.95 apiece from a couple of 3800 engines, one SC and one NA.

The SC starter (1.7kw) is a tiny bit longer than the NA one (1.5kw).


fierosound MAY 26, 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

I picked up two starters last weekend from the local Pick-a-Part for $17.95 apiece from a couple of 3800 engines, one SC and one NA.

The SC starter (1.7kw) is a tiny bit longer than the NA one (1.5kw).




AutoZone shows this 1.5 kW starter with 11 teeth for the NA 3800 2006 Grand Prix
http://www.autozone.com/bat...521_0/?checkfit=true



They also show the smaller style as also being 1.5 kW with 11 teeth for the NA 3800 2006 Grand Prix
http://www.autozone.com/bat...v/108726_23521_7833/



The small one of the 3 pictured below, has 9 teeth on the gear and according to AC Delco is the 1.7 kW for the 3800 S/C 2006 Grand Prix
The middle slightly larger one I got a couple of years ago, has 11 teeth and came from a NA 3800 I believe...

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Patrick MAY 26, 05:49 PM
Tony, I suppose there could be a variation in size depending on the actual manufacturer. (I can't check them at this point, but I suspect the two starters I pulled at the wreckers a few years ago were both original ACDelco units.)

I just wanted to make sure it wasn't simply a typo that resulted in it being stated that the 1.7kw starter was smaller than the 1.5kw starter.

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