clutch pushrod too short?? (Page 3/4)
katie80 JUN 18, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by jelly2m8:


You do Patrick yes, and you also know you never start throwing parts until you know that Clutch pedal is back within spec, which is why anytime a clutch release issue is posted there needs to be a sticky on clutch pedals.




I'll see if I can find a clutch pedal that's more straight than my already straight clutch pedal. maybe it'll break through the circlip at the end of the slave cylinder and I'll be able to press it to the floor.
katie80 JUN 18, 01:35 PM
an update for anyone who was wondering if this was the issue. i bought a bolt and cut it down to the right length and rounded the tips and it works perfectly. shifts into every gear with no grinding. thank you all for your help!!
theogre JUN 18, 04:40 PM
Tittle is "clutch pushrod too short??"
Is why you got bent arm as said above. Because Many Will Not dig thru you long post to find 1 detail for many reason even if they Read the top post.

Slave push all the way out and still can't disengage the clutch Disk...
The Level to Clutch Rod on the trans is Bent. GM had "recall" for some arms and replacing w/ stronger arm. Go search PFF.
Rod Assem, Throwout or Clutch Pack itself is bad/broken. Example: Rod w/ iffy bearing or forks the hit the TO Bearing worn often changes if/when the clutch works. Or Not work at all if those parts are worn bad.
Slave is wrong or is installed wrong for whatever reason on some trans.

Hydro Clutches are 100% Non Adjustable on 99+% of vehicles using them.
99+% of Hydro and Cable setups have 0 Travel for the TO Bearing to hit the Clutch Pack as well. They are Not like most linkage setups that can't "Self adjust" for wear in the Pack.

So you should see clutch pack loading very fast as soon as you push the pedal even if the rod between slave and whatever is "short."
Patrick JUN 18, 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by katie80:

i bought a bolt and cut it down to the right length and rounded the tips and it works perfectly. shifts into every gear with no grinding.



Good. It seemed like the only obvious solution.

Whomever originally installed that short slave push rod deserves a kick in the azz.


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Originally posted by katie80:

PEDAL IS STRAIGHT, I JUST REPLACED IT.



I wish you could've mentioned this earlier in the thread... as it would've saved ME a lot of typing trying to explain why I didn't believe a lack of throw at the pedal/master was the problem.
theogre JUN 18, 10:09 PM
Except long rod can, likely will, fail again if have just about any deflects I list just above.

Example: Bent weak arm just bend more or break often @ worst time.

Rod in the trans and others can break w/o more warning and cause a lot more damage. Worse when broken thing jam causing total locking of rear axle.
Patrick JUN 18, 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by theogre:

Except long rod can, likely will, fail again if have just about any deflects I list just above.



What is this "long rod" business? The OP has now installed a slave push rod that is the regulation factory length... and surprise surprise, the clutch is finally disengaging properly! This thread has gotten absolutely ridiculous.

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PhatMax JUN 19, 08:46 AM
And no one read my post…… I’ll post it in a separate post

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sleek fiero JUN 19, 01:21 PM
Relax guys ;
You all have the answers to the possible clutch problems and this and all the other threads will be repeated everytime someone is having a clutch problem. I think this is good as it reiterates the possible solutions to the clutch problems that show up. I'm sure most of us have trouble remembering all the possible causes of a clutch problem so repeating this process is good especially for the old farts like me in this group. sleek
cyrus88 JUN 19, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by PhatMax:

And no one read my post…… I’ll post it in a separate post




It is really hard for most people to read single spaced, big block of text. I for one don't even bother to try, I just skip over it.
Mickey_Moose JUN 19, 03:57 PM
Another thing that tends to get overlooked is the clutch release arm on the transmission.

There are 2 types - the cast one and the stamped steel. The stamped steel arm tends to bend as well - replace it with the cast arm.

Stamped steel arm is on the far left:

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