Pictures of my 84 project (Page 4/8)
KurtAKX NOV 04, 04:14 PM
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The_Stickman2 NOV 04, 05:50 PM

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Yeah, this is the same car. Chester really dicked the purchaser. He bought this car for $2500, sold the original Indy seats, 3 of the 4 sets of wheels it came with, let it sit unprotected for 3 years, intentionally omitted several mechanical and body issues with the vehicle, and then offered it up for $8500 without the slightest bit of guilt.

Link to where the car was purchased for $2500
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...030819-1-027967.html

Fierosound is too mature / levelheaded to start a big flame war about it on the forum, but I'll tell you this. I wouldn't ever buy anything from Chester without looking it over in person after seeing this. Actually I might not even then.
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That's funny because I offered that same seller that much and he told me that he was getting $3000 or more and didn't offer me the chance to offer more. Just said someone was coming to pick it up before I could get there.
fierosound NOV 05, 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by KurtAKX:

Yeah, this is the same car. Chester really dicked the purchaser. He bought this car for $2500, sold the original Indy seats, 3 of the 4 sets of wheels it came with, let it sit unprotected for 3 years, intentionally omitted several mechanical and body issues with the vehicle, and then offered it up for $8500 without the slightest bit of guilt.




I think Fiero5 bought the original Indy wheels from the car. Not sure who eventually bought the Indy seats.

There was lots of interest though. http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...030819-1-028347.html

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vinny NOV 05, 07:45 PM
Is the header still available new? I have my doubts. You have the perfect opportunity to replicate it. Build a jig, take lots of measurements and build away! Would be fairly easy. Just a thought.

Vinny
fierosound NOV 06, 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by vinny:

Is the header still available new? I have my doubts. You have the perfect opportunity to replicate it. Build a jig, take lots of measurements and build away! Would be fairly easy. Just a thought.




According to the Super Duty Guide, Hooker made 2 styles of headers. I found some pictures.

PN 4702 is the 4-into-1 competition style that was used on the Indy pace car without convertor and is the one I have.


You wouldn't want this for street use. The primary pipes are huge and designed for high RPM horsepower - likely way to big for use on any Duke engine which would benefit from smaller primaries to keep engine torque up.

In addition, the long primaries and collector run so low under the cradle that it reduces road clearance by about 2 inches which would not be very good if you wanted to lower the car to boot. See the pictures above of the header in the car to see what I mean.

Also, it would be impossible to mount a rear sway bar because this header wouldn't fit between the cradle and sway bar.

A much better fit would be Hooker PN 4703 with smaller primaries and a Tri-Y design that wraps around to connect with the catalytic convertor.


A Tri-Y design is a superior on almost any engine, but isn't as common due to increased production costs associated with this design. Plus most people wouldn't buy it because they don't realize it's a better design - they want the 4 into 1 type they see on "race cars". As you can see, it pairs 2 primary pipes together into 1, then has another Y pairing those into a single exhaust pipe. This keeps exhaust velocities high for better torque throughout the engine's RPM range.

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fierosound NOV 06, 09:44 AM
Here's a link to "after" pictures of this SD4 Indy as it was being rebuilt.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000077.html

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fierosound NOV 06, 12:21 PM
There’s a couple of headers made for 2.5L Jeeps that look like they may work.

Borla http://www.quadratec.com/products/17601_03_07.htm


Gale Banks http://www.quadratec.com/products/17601_502_07.htm

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KEV NOV 06, 01:18 PM
Hedman Hedder 99410

http://store.summitracing.c...l.asp?part=hed-99410

Here's on that may work..I'm thinking of ordering it?
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1999 GMC Jimmy 2dr 4x4
1996 Chevy Lumina LS

1986 Fiero Base Coupe...NO OPTIONS !!
1985 Fiero GT 3800 N/A-sometime this year 3800S/C..maybe
1984 Fiero Indy-Restoring back to former glory

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The_Stickman2 NOV 06, 01:51 PM
The only one of those three headers posted that will work is the shorty. The other two won't. I had an S-10 header I thought I could make work with some bending and cutting. Nope they just won't. I suppose maybe the top one if you took off the bottom part at the 4 into 2 collector and turned it around. But that's still alot of work and cash for a maybe.
fierosound NOV 06, 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by The_Stickman2:

The only one of those three headers posted that will work is the shorty. The other two won't.




Looking at it a second time, the Borla's #1 primary pipe will likely hit the water pump. If that clears, the pipe after the clamp would be scrapped and it should be possible to route around into the catalytic convertor - provided it's not hitting the cradle.