Thx Patrick, sorry for the second post but I'm not allowed to delete it!

Question concerning the timing chain, this is the part concerned, red arrow correct?



I've created a small piece that is putting pressure on the timing, yellow arrow.
If fact this part is scrolled inside but this is not visible on the picture. Normally it should keep the timing in place when the water pump will be removed, I hope :-)

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quote Originally posted by pommejaune: Thx Patrick, sorry for the second post but I'm not allowed to delete it!

You may not be able to delete the "post" itself, but you can certainly delete the contents (including the image) by clicking on EDIT and highlighting everything... and yes, deleting it. It might be necessary to replace it with something. If so, just stick a smiley face in there.

quote Originally posted by pommejaune: Question concerning the timing chain, this is the part concerned, red arrow correct?

Yes, that's the part... but it's a timing chain cover.

quote Originally posted by pommejaune: I've created a small piece that is putting pressure on the timing, yellow arrow. If fact this part is scrolled inside but this is not visible on the picture. Normally it should keep the timing in place when the water pump will be removed, I hope :-)

I can see what you've done just fine. My concern is that its clamping pressure is minimal. If this is what you're going with, my only suggestion is to be as gentle as possible when pulling the water pump away from the timing cover. Do not try and tap it off. If need be, carefully pry it off by putting pressure between the water pump and the timing cover... not against the block or heads.

My water pump came off very easy as it wasn't stuck anywhere. Hopefully yours will be the same.

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Hello Patrick,

Water pump removed with love :-)



I have now two questions, how to clean-up the timing chain cover? Same question for bolts removed?



Concerning the new seal, I suppose that I have to put permatex on the gasket?

Thx
pJ

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quote Originally posted by pommejaune: I have now two questions, how to clean-up the timing chain cover? Same question for bolts removed?

Everyone has their own method, but I used a sharp gasket scraper, being very careful not to dig into the relatively soft aluminum of the timing cover. Slow and steady was my mantra.

A wire brush wheel would work fine on the bolts. And I always clean up the threads (both on the bolts and whatever they screw into) using my tap and die set.

quote Originally posted by pommejaune: Concerning the new seal, I suppose that I have to put permatex on the gasket?

I addressed that a couple times already in this thread.

quote Originally posted by Patrick: I recommend using Permatex® Aviation Form-A-Gasket® on both the gasket and the threads of the #4 bolt. I've used this stuff for 40 years.

I cropped your image a bit, but it demonstrates perfectly which bolt (there's only one) that protrudes into the water jacket, and therefore needs to have sealer on it.

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I am trying to use this clamp (featured in the picture below), but so far in the pictures in this album (link below) is about as close as I can get. I've circled some parts that are in the way. Do I need remove both to make bolting on the clamp for the timing belt cover possible?

Any advice given will of course be appreciated.

Photo album here..
https://www.facebook.com/Do...1073741869.513018650
From previously...

quote Speaking about the clamp, I have never seen an image anywhere on the 'net (including Pennock's) of one actually being used. Behold...this is where it goes!

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quote Originally posted by Doctor Clu: I am trying to use this clamp, but so far this is about as close as I can get. I've circled some parts that are in the way. Do I need remove both to make bolting on the clamp for the timing belt cover possible?

As you can see in the picture I posted of my own engine, the alternator bracket needs to come out for sure. I don't recall taking the ECM temperature sensor out, but that should be more apparent to you (if it's necessary or not) once you get the clamp in the proper position. It's a nuisance, but it's a whole lot less work than not using the clamp... and then needing to remove the timing cover to replace the gasket.

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quote Originally posted by imacflier: Now that you all see what an incredible pain it is to replace the waterpump, now is the time to put Dodgerunner's Idler set up on! I have not heard of a single case of waterpump failure by anyone who has put his idler in their Fiero.

If you look closely at the picture of my engine, you'll see Dodgerunner's bracket.

Dodgerunner's auto tensioner had been on my engine for about a year before the water pump failed. However, I suspect the pump was already on borrowed time due to 26 years of previous use/abuse.

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