Lamborghini engine in Fiero (Page 4/6)
fieroguru NOV 10, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

Which trans was in that one, fieroguru?




4 speed muncie.
sourmash NOV 10, 08:35 PM
Interesting. Wonder if it survives?
fieroguru NOV 11, 07:15 AM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

Interesting. Wonder if it survives?



It doesn't. Russ moved and ended up sending most of his fiero projects to the scrap yard.
BillS NOV 11, 01:45 PM
While it makes zero sense to spend triple+ the worth of the whole car on a core engine, there are other engines like the BMW V12 and V10 that are less expensive. The learning curve to get them running in a Fiero may be steep and the mounting of one in a transverse set up may be impossible - there are even issues when putting a V8 in there.

Didn't someone extend the rear bodywork and stick in an in line engine? That's what the Countach did , but then you don't have a stock looking Fiero any more, if that matters.
sourmash NOV 11, 06:22 PM
Since the cars can be had for free (or nearly so) your investment in the car can be meaningless to the project, except that it means your investment is really just in the swap.
I'm sorta surprised there are so many still left when you consider that you never see cars like the Z24 or the Conquest TSi anymore. Of course someone out there sees them. I never do. Not far away are 3 Fieros in one guys place, 6 in another, 3-4 in another and then there are the singles here and there.
cvxjet NOV 12, 01:09 AM
Well....Up until recently....I believe the Fiero was the only production mid-engine car made in the USA......I think some other car has come along lately.....

Also, the Fiero really had some interesting manufacturing processes....And was well styled- especially for the 80s....Even the basic '84s still look (Basically) timeless.

It saddens me to see Fieros that are still (Basically) all there in the JY.....Like in the show "How I met your Mother" where they say the car is finished; Just change the engine...the trans...the front or rear suspension....Not all that hard and the car could go another (Almost) 200,000 miles........500 miles at a time (Watch the show to understand that reference)
Dennis LaGrua NOV 12, 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by BillS:

While it makes zero sense to spend triple+ the worth of the whole car on a core engine, there are other engines like the BMW V12 and V10 that are less expensive. The learning curve to get them running in a Fiero may be steep and the mounting of one in a transverse set up may be impossible - there are even issues when putting a V8 in there.

Didn't someone extend the rear bodywork and stick in an in line engine? That's what the Countach did , but then you don't have a stock looking Fiero any more, if that matters.



The BMW V12 was the M70 engine that was built for about 10 years used on 1992–1996 E31 Models, a large luxury touring sedan. It is a huge engine. Several years back at the kit car show, I saw one installed in a Lamborghinni Galardo replica. The engine was so big that the builder had to rework/enlarge the Fiero engine compartment extensively. The standard engine gives 295 HP but there are ultra rare versions that provide 395HP. The basic M 70 engines can be found but they don't have the best record for reliability I believe that for the amount of work and cost (vs power) a different swap seems to make more sense. There are many 3800SC swaps that have hit the 11's and one brave forum member was able to take his 3800SC to a 9.87 sec 1/4 mile time at 142 MPH . I doubt if any V8, V10, or V12 in a Fiero could do better than that.

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sourmash NOV 12, 08:41 AM
Since I don't drag race, quarter mile times really don't determine my decisions on projects. If you've ever driven a V12 you'll know that the torque, smoothness and red line appeal to your senses unlike a tractor engine.
Will NOV 12, 09:50 AM
I don't know how the BMW V12 came to be known as the V12 to swap...
It's SOHC, 24V, with terrible head flow. It was available in a 300 HP/330 TQ 5.0 version and later a 330 HP/360 TQ 5.4 version. There was a 360/380 5.6 version in the 850CSi, but that was extremely rare.
BMW didn't build a DOHC 48V V12 until the early 2000's, but that engine had the first ValveTronic implementation and is difficult to swap.

The Mercedes V12 was DOHC, 48V, 6.0 and made 400 HP as far back as 1991ish.
BillS NOV 12, 05:33 PM
I agree, Dennis. A V12 is a very poor choice for a Fiero swap. Frankly I don't think you'd do much better than a modern DI high output 4 cylinder. there are a number of them that come stock from round 300 bhp up and are able to be modified up toward 500 bhp reliably That's where I would look for a Fiero engine, but I'd worry a bit about the torque capacity of the Getrag...

But this thread was about looks, I think, not performance, and although a V12 looks great I doubt there is anyone here with the combination of excessive dollars together with insufficient judgement to want to actually try that swap. Although they did manage to shoehorn a Lambo V12 into a Fiat 500....

https://www.roadandtrack.co...canica-fiat-500-v12/