smoke at start up? (Page 1/2)
georgie JAN 12, 04:10 PM
Iv been getting some white smoke when I start my gt 2.8 after it's warmed up an I park for a bit. I'm not sure if it smell's like gas or oil. Does any one have a clue what's up? The car run's great has good power in all rpm's an does not run hot. I did change my oil to mobil super an used the ph52 filter so I could put 5gt's of oil in it. Could it be burning some of the oil off because of having a full 5gt's?
Gall757 JAN 12, 04:28 PM
Lots of 2.8 engines blow some white smoke at start up. it's the valve guide seals. My car has gotten better over the last few years and I can only guess why. The seals may shrink if the engine sits a long time....or it may be the kind of oil you use? Don't know.
Fiero84Freak JAN 12, 04:29 PM
This is as common as the sun rising and setting. I'd be more surprised if you started a thread saying every time you started your Fiero it started up absolutely perfect.

It's typically caused by worn valve seals or valve stem guides. When the car is shut off and oil travels back down to the bottom of the crankcase, some gets past the valve seals. Then you go to start it up the next time, and out it comes from the exhaust. It's happens on Fieros that have anything from 85,000 miles to ones that have 285,000 miles like mine does. If it's plain white smoke and it just happens for a quick bit on start up it's honestly not much to worry about, even in the long run. The proper thing to have done is a complete valve job on the heads.

Still as a precautionary setup, you may want to make sure it is not something worse, like a blown head gasket, which can also show similar symptoms.

EDIT: and beaten to it.

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tebailey JAN 12, 04:49 PM
Blue smoke, oil. White smoke, water. Black smoke, fuel.
georgie JAN 12, 05:18 PM
Ya, I have 130.000 on it. The motor run's strong an it is blue smoke. So I feel it most likely the seal's an the 5/30wt syn oil I used in it. Thanks. I Will also check for oil consumption. But it is a fiero so one never know's?
zkhennings JAN 13, 10:40 AM
Open your windows and sunroof if you have one, and engine brake. When my car had bad valve guides it would puff at start up and every time I decelerated with engine braking (pulling crazy vacuum) I could smell oil burning as it was being pulled through the guides into the cylinders. I never burned oil though (in noticeable quantities) but it still frustrated me so I built a new engine haha
Patrick JAN 13, 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by georgie:

Iv been getting some white smoke when I start my gt 2.8...




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Originally posted by georgie:

The motor run's strong an it is blue smoke.



Makes it rather difficult to properly diagnose an issue when the reported facts change.
Gall757 JAN 13, 12:54 PM
I've always had trouble with that 'blue' description. It's a little less white than burning coolant....but not much.
2.5 JAN 13, 01:54 PM
Yeah the Iron Duke is known for a smoke blow at startup too, its oil from the valve seals, but it looks white.

If you arent having to add any fluids its likley not serious.
rogergarrison JAN 13, 04:10 PM
My V6 almost always make a quick puff of blueish smoke on startup from brand new, especially after overnite. It didnt burn enough to need any oil added between changes. Ran like that for 100K. Never got better or worse.