Car is an 85 v6 with 4 speed manual trans.
I HATE this trans. Revs way too high at highway speed.
The original ltlfrari had a 4cyl with a5 speed isuzu that loped along nicely at 2200 rpl at highway speed and I loved it, especially after I put the DOHC in that car.

So I decided I'd put an Isuzu 5 sp in this car, mated to the stock v6, if only so that I don't go deaf on the hiway from the engine screaming at me!

I found one a while ago on ebay at a good price, pickup only but it was only an hour or so away from me so I went for it. Turns out the guy used to race Fieros.
Box looked good but came with no brackets.

A while later same guy put a box of assorted brackets up on ebay, some of which I know are for the Suzy box. Bit bummed didn't throw them in before but hey ho, got them.

So now I come to try to figure out what I have and this is where it gets interesting.

It looks like the guy has swapped out the gear select mechanism or done 'something' to it because there's no way the cables/shift mechanism will line up with the brackets.

On ltlfrari I recall big mounting bracket for the shift/select cables, like this (this is not mine):



But on mine the mechanism appears to be rotated 90 degrees.



There's half a small bracket that looks like it would fit but it goes in a totally different place. This pic also shows the orientation of the shift meachanism.



This is how the shift mechanism looked on ltlfrari, basically 90 degrees difference:



Anyone any idea what the heck I have here and to route the shift/select cables (I pre emptivly bought rodneys Isuzu cables so if they won't fit I shall be bummed!)

Also,

What the heck goes here in this area. I have what looks like a front mount but it does not reach any of these holes so I assume there's some sort of other mount/bracket goes here.




If anyone has or can take pics of the suzy mounts and linkage or identify this thing that I have, I'd be grateful


Thanks
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Anything I might say is probably worth what you paid for it, so treat it accordingly!

Dave

www.ltlfrari.com

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Anything I might say is probably worth what you paid for it, so treat it accordingly!

Dave

www.ltlfrari.com

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'87 Fiero 4.9 5-speed

quote Originally posted by Warlordsix: I'll take some photos of my Isuzu and how everything connects and post them. Stay tuned. Ernie

For what it's worth, here's a couple of pics of my stock (as far as I know) Isuzu MT2 5 speed:



Hmm, that's a bit more oily that I'd like! I might have to rebuild that! I just changed out the output seals a couple of weeks ago, and I'm not getting any drips, so I'll just keep an eye on it. Probably wouldn't have caught it but for your post, so thanks!


I though that Rodney Dickman also sold a FWD to Fiero conversion bracket for Isuzu and Getrag 5 speeds. I can see the one for Getrag on his site, but not the one for Isuzu, though his site is notoriously hard to search on so I'd have a look there.

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Thanks for those.
On your pics the long shift lever is horizointal and the select moves up/down.
On mine the long lever is vertical and the select moves to the side towards the bellhousing so the whole thing is turned 90 degrees.

On mine that whole assembly that houses the levels/shafts has at least been removed and replaced because it has blue gasket stuff on it.
I cannot imagine the guy that sold me the box swapped out the original assembly for this one so I am assuming it's the original one which makes me doubt that this was ever a FIERO Isuzu but perhaps a suzy mt2 from some other car in whuch case, what are the rations because the whol point of this was to get a lower reving engine at hiway speed.


Basically this part (this is the one I currently have)



This is (I believe) a real one Fiero mt2



The breather is different but not by much that I can see and it 'looks' like the casting itself is the same, just that one mine there's a lever in that casting at the back that is moved to the front on the proper setup.
So I am wondering if it is possible to remove that assembly, rotate the shaft to the correct orientation and put it back together.

Since I am probably going to have to pull it anyway to replace it with the proper mechanism (if I can find one), I may take a look at it and see if it is possible.Worst case if it can be swapped is that I have to make the linkage brackets up myself.

But, just in case.
I am thinking that if I can get that shifter assembly from 'proper' Fiero MT2 I could swap them over as I think they are swappable.
So, if anyone has a junk Isuzu 5 speed/MT2 box I could grab the shifter assembly from (including the linkage brackets) , I'd be eternally grateful (plus I'd pay for it as well of course).

Oh, I searched Rodney's site. Couldn't find an adapter for the suzy box

Update.
A bit more info. This is a screen capture from someones youtube video refurbishing a Fiero.



From the video and his talking, the shifter lever is held on the splines with a roll pin. There's only one hole in the shaft and one through the shift lever casting so I am thinking that the only real difference is the orientation of the arm when it is welded to the end of the shaft.
This makes me think that I could possibly get away with removing it and re-welding it onto the shaft in the correct orientation.

Apparently this whole assembly is called a quadrant box (so now you know!)

I'd still rather replace with a 'real' one though if possible. I can weld but I'm not that good at it

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Anything I might say is probably worth what you paid for it, so treat it accordingly!

Dave

www.ltlfrari.com

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More photos.

Ernie

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'87 Fiero 4.9 5-speed

And here are another three.

Ernie

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'87 Fiero 4.9 5-speed

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