1984 2.5 Head bolts best pratice (Page 1/1)
Indy-453 JAN 01, 12:39 AM
Hello,

I have a 2.5 Iron Duke and I am preparing to install a rebuilt head. What is best practice for installing these head bolts?

I have a copy of the 1984 Factory service manual, the diagram says to install the bolts with sealing compound on bolts 9 & 10, where as the numbered instructions are less clear and my reading of it is to use sealant on all threads.

When poking about with a metal wire, holes 1 - 8 seem like they are blind where as 9 and 10 do go into the water jacket.

Which would be the ideal method? I have ran a tap into all the holes to clean them out, and I am using new bolts.



pmbrunelle JAN 01, 01:36 AM
Sealant can be viewed as a lubricant on the threads; the lubrication will reduce thread friction, and therefore influence the bolt stretch (and hence bolt load) resulting from the applied wrench torque.

I think that the bolt stretch will be more consistent with the same lubrication on all bolts, resulting in a more even clamping of the head onto the block.

Therefore, my recommendation is to apply sealant on all bolts.
Dennis LaGrua JAN 01, 07:32 AM
The key to a successful head installation is to follow the sequence and torque the head bolts gradually 10 ft lbs at a time until the final torque has been reached. If any of the head bolts fit to the water jacket then a sealant must be used to prevent leaks.

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theogre JAN 01, 10:54 AM
FSM is likely Wrong listing all bolts to same torque.
Think TSB or later FSM has updated torque w/ different angles for sealer bolts but can't find it right now at have to leave soon so I'll look for it later if can today.

Install w/ sealer Only on two bolts that get wet w/ coolant.

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Blacktree JAN 01, 12:36 PM
The service manual lists 2 different procedures, one for the '84-85 and another for the '86-88. They are as follows:

For '84-85 -- Install all head bolts finger-tight. Then torque them all to 92 ft-lb, in 3 stages.

For '86-88 -- Install all head bolts finger-tight. Then torque them all to 18 ft-lb. Next, torque all except #9 to 22 ft-lb (#9 is 29 ft-lb). And finally, turn all except #9 an additional 120 degrees (#9 is 90 degrees).

Both of these procedures specify applying sealant to bolts 9 & 10.

That said, I would tend to use the second procedure, especially with new head bolts. Because new head bolts will be designed to use the revised torque procedure.

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theogre JAN 01, 04:29 PM
AllData gets notes etc Directly From GM and only list 2nd method w/ 120 and 90°

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17.Install new head gasket, then the cylinder head assembly, ensuring gasket and head are seated over dowel pins.
18. Coat threads of bolts 9 and 10, Fig. 2, with sealer, apply oil to remaining bolts and install all bolts finger tight.
19. Tighten bolts in 3 steps following sequence shown in Fig. 2. First torque all bolts to 18 ft. lbs. Second, torque all bolts except bolt No. 9 to 22 ft. lbs. Torque bolt No. 9 to 29 ft. lbs. Third, tighten all bolts except No. 9 an additional 120° (2 flats). Tighten bolt No. 9 an additional 90° (1/4 turn).



⚠️ Warning: Never reused Duke head bolts. Many OE ones are weak and even break and often can't tell if bolts are OE or replacement anytime over 30+ years. (Not good idea for many other engines. Worse, Other engine have Torque To Yield and must be replace every time and often use same method torque to X ft/lb then Y°.)

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