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CSM842M4
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SEP 07, 05:46 PM
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Wife drove her '86 SE to visit her daughter in St. Louis late last week and locked the doors at the house. Went to unlock with the key and all the guts spilled out of the driver's side cylinder, such that it wouldn't unlock. She went to passenger side and found the same condition, but was able to fiddle with it long enough to get it open. So now I get to replace the cylinders as a set.
At this point I have the driver's door card off, and it looks like the cylinder is "pinched" between a stamped sheet metal bracket on the inner door frame and the outer door skin. So, does the skin have to come off to get this done? Is it easier with the skin off? Pros and cons of leaving it on and pulling it? Anyone? Beuller? Thanks in advance - Chris
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IMSA GT
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SEP 07, 06:01 PM
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The cylinders are held on with a large C-clip on the outside of that metal plate. If you removed the outer door skin, the clip would be facing you. It simply unclips and the lock cylinder can be removed. The issue is how to reinstall the clip if you cannot see where you are installing it.
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RWDPLZ
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SEP 07, 08:38 PM
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It is easier with the skin off. Downside of removing the skin is of course the clips that hold the trim on will probably break. I could NOT get the C-clip off fishing it out through the sharp edges of the door sheetmetal. Fiero Store sells the clips and door lock sets.
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CSM842M4
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SEP 07, 09:31 PM
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Thanks. IMSA GT and RWDPLZ. I got the feeling that it would be easier with the outer skin removed. I've discovered that the outer handle needs replaced now as well, so... Am I mistaken, or is the lock cylinder pinched in that bracket by the clip on the outer side and the lock rod arm on the inside?
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IMSA GT
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SEP 07, 09:50 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by CSM842M4:
Thanks. IMSA GT and RWDPLZ. I got the feeling that it would be easier with the outer skin removed. I've discovered that the outer handle needs replaced now as well, so... Am I mistaken, or is the lock cylinder pinched in that bracket by the clip on the outer side and the lock rod arm on the inside? |
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The handle will need to be removed anyway in order to remove the door skin. Here is a picture of my car I just took for you. My car is a little different as I have removable door skins held on by DZUS fasteners so I had to customize the panel so the handle stays on the car when I remove the skin. In your case, you'll need to remove the handle.
 [This message has been edited by IMSA GT (edited 09-07-2021).]
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katie80
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SEP 07, 09:56 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by CSM842M4:
Wife drove her '86 SE to visit her daughter in St. Louis late last week and locked the doors at the house. Went to unlock with the key and all the guts spilled out of the driver's side cylinder, such that it wouldn't unlock. She went to passenger side and found the same condition, but was able to fiddle with it long enough to get it open. So now I get to replace the cylinders as a set.
At this point I have the driver's door card off, and it looks like the cylinder is "pinched" between a stamped sheet metal bracket on the inner door frame and the outer door skin. So, does the skin have to come off to get this done? Is it easier with the skin off? Pros and cons of leaving it on and pulling it? Anyone? Beuller? Thanks in advance - Chris |
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I have done it with the skin on, from the inside. it really wasn't that difficult. just kinda finnicky to get the right angles for my screwdriver.
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fierofool
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SEP 08, 09:01 AM
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With the aero trim on the 86SE, you will have to drill out the rivets for the plate that supports the lower door trim. Fastenal has what's needed to reattach it, but I found the local store doesn't sell to the public any longer. Only to account holders. Grainger might be an option for the big rivets you will need.
Fiero Store used to have a 3 cylinder set that included a matching trunk cylinder. I was going to provide a link for you, but they don't offer the 3-piece matched set any longer.
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hnthomps
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SEP 08, 02:20 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by CSM842M4:
Wife drove her '86 SE to visit her daughter in St. Louis late last week and locked the doors at the house. Went to unlock with the key and all the guts spilled out of the driver's side cylinder, such that it wouldn't unlock. She went to passenger side and found the same condition, but was able to fiddle with it long enough to get it open. So now I get to replace the cylinders as a set.
At this point I have the driver's door card off, and it looks like the cylinder is "pinched" between a stamped sheet metal bracket on the inner door frame and the outer door skin. So, does the skin have to come off to get this done? Is it easier with the skin off? Pros and cons of leaving it on and pulling it? Anyone? Beuller? Thanks in advance - Chris |
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I have replaced the cylinder without removing the outer door skin. If you have smaller hands it is not to bad. Unfortunately I have ham sized hands and eventually used a snap ring tool to get the clip reinstalled.
Nelson
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CSM842M4
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SEP 08, 09:51 PM
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Thanks, everyone. Seems like a mixed bag, but I sort of expected that. Think I'm gonna take a stab at it with the skin ON the door to start, and remove it if the clips are just completely uncooperative. More to follow...
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ltlfrari
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SEP 09, 03:27 PM
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