clutch will not bleed (Page 1/3)
katie80 DEC 31, 02:43 AM
I'm rewriting this post since it seemed confusing.

I have an 84 4 speed. I can't get the clutch to work properly. it used to work but I believe there was water in the clutch line. I think it started to freeze when it got cold, so I tried to bleed the clutch like brakes. it didn't work.
I gravity bled, vacuum bled, bled using the slave, bled the master, I can only get the clutch to almost work. I got it to work properly once, but the bleeder was not tightened all the way so it stopped working again. I have replaced the slave cylinder already.
I can't figure out the right procedure to fully bleed the system.
I do not believe it is something mechanical since the clutch fully disengages sometimes (after I get lucky with bleeding I guess.)

[This message has been edited by katie80 (edited 01-01-2022).]

RotrexFiero DEC 31, 07:08 AM
I would begin by replacing your slave and master clutch cylinder. More than likely one is bad, but after that you should have no problem.

Most likely that will be your problem.
fierofool DEC 31, 08:35 AM
Quote: "I can get the clutch to engage enough to roll in gear but no more".

That sounds like the clutch is slipping instead of not disengaging. Bleeding won't help a slipping clutch.
Dennis LaGrua DEC 31, 01:58 PM
Engagement/disengagement problems with the clutch can have many causes. A worn master or slave cylinder, bent clutch fork, air in system or even a worn clutch. Bleeding method that you tried doesn't always work. Use a vacuum bleeder at the slave.

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Larryinkc DEC 31, 03:02 PM
There is some good clutch info from V8 Archie on this page, click on the Archisms to open the pages.

http://www.v8archie.com/v8Archie/ToC6.htm
Patrick DEC 31, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by katie80:

...the pedal was just hard to press.



When the clutch hydraulics are in need of being bled (and the clutch won't disengage), usually the the pedal is easier to push... due to air in the system being compressed.


quote
Originally posted by fierofool:

Quote: "I can get the clutch to engage enough to roll in gear but no more".

That sounds like the clutch is slipping instead of not disengaging. Bleeding won't help a slipping clutch.




I agree that what the OP has posted is indeed confusing.
katie80 DEC 31, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by RotrexFiero:

I would begin by replacing your slave and master clutch cylinder. More than likely one is bad, but after that you should have no problem.

Most likely that will be your problem.


I do not believe that that would fix it. I got the clutch to work properly one time but I didn't have the bleeder screw tight enough so it stopped workjng.
katie80 DEC 31, 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by fierofool:

Quote: "I can get the clutch to engage enough to roll in gear but no more".

That sounds like the clutch is slipping instead of not disengaging. Bleeding won't help a slipping clutch.



I meant it won't disengage all the way. I can get the clutch to work if I pump it now.
katie80 DEC 31, 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

Engagement/disengagement problems with the clutch can have many causes. A worn master or slave cylinder, bent clutch fork, air in system or even a worn clutch. Bleeding method that you tried doesn't always work. Use a vacuum bleeder at the slave.




I tried every bleeding method. I bled the slave, I bled at the slave, I vacuum bled, gravity bled. I do not believe the issue is mechanical because I got the clutch to fully work one time but I didn't have the bleeder tightened all the way.
katie80 DEC 31, 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

I agree that what the OP has posted is indeed confusing.



it was hard to press because the fluid was like a slushie in the cold. I meant the clutch wouldn't fully disengage. I can get it pretty close.