Temperature Gauge Needle Goes Past 260 and Brake Indicator Remains After Start Up (Page 1/1)
MERATIME JAN 16, 03:00 AM
Hello All,

Yesterday, I started my 1987 Fiero GT / 5 Spd Manual and the temperature gauge needle went past the 260 mark and the brake light wouldn't go off after turning the ignition (The emergency brake lever was never applied). I wanted to also mention that my steering column has started to become loose. Could that be the cause of the this issue? Has anybody had any similar occurrences with their Fiero? I couldn't find any previous related topics. Any information related to this issue would be great. Thanks!

[This message has been edited by MERATIME (edited 01-16-2023).]

theogre JAN 16, 10:06 AM
1. brake light... See my Cave, Brake Light
even if never pulled the handle, light on is often w/o enough cable tension or lever switch is iffy

2. OE setup temp gauge pegs then stops during bulb test to start the car. May stay pegged when gauge is sticking. Example: parked outside letting car get cold can be enough extra binding to stay pegged.
Otherwise can be iffy wiring, sender, etc.
Warning: gauge wiring diagrams in FSM and others are missing things in the real circuit that could cause a peg gauge, non-op gauge, inaccurate gauge or other issues.

3. loose column doesn't cause above. If anything stops you starting the car, beam switch can't stay when hit the MF Lever, or both.
Is cause by user abuse making column damage and famous 4 bolts problem or other parts w/ problems.
See my Cave, Steering
Do Not use Red loctite on 4 bolts because often people still abuse the column and can't fix the problem.
#1 Rule is Do Not let S-wheel to slam when tilt lever is pulled or use it a handle to get in/out of car.

Note: I-key has 6 positions in most GM column and many others...
Acc, off & locked, off, on, bulb test, start.
Most never bothered but bulb test happens before and during starting. Turn the key very slowly to see this.
Often have column loose then can't reach Acc, Start or both reliably or not at all.

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ArthurPeale JAN 16, 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by theogre:

2. OE setup temp gauge pegs then stops during bulb test to start the car. May stay pegged when gauge is sticking. Example: parked outside letting car get cold can be enough extra binding to stay pegged.
Otherwise can be iffy wiring, sender, etc.
Warning: gauge wiring diagrams in FSM and others are missing things in the real circuit that could cause a peg gauge, non-op gauge, inaccurate gauge or other issues.




And, there is a fix for this. It involves swapping four wires at their connectors. Two are in the cluster, and two are in the engine bay.
MERATIME JAN 16, 10:03 PM
Thank you all very much. I appreciate you taking time to post solutions to this starting issue. Have a great 2023!