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82-T/A [At Work]
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APR 04, 02:25 PM
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Guys, with my daughter almost done re-assmebling her 1985 Iron Duke... it occurred to me that the oil filter literally comes off the block at an angle... to the point that when you remove it, you are ... most definitely ... going to get oil pouring down the side of the engine block, onto the oil pan, and God knows where else. Is there an external oil filter kit that possibly even just puts it at a 90 degree angle? I seem to recall it sticks out behind and below the alternator... but I don't really see anything that would get in it's way.
I'm not a fan of pressurized oil lines... but if there was something that screwed on and enabled a 90 degree angle so the oil filter came right off the block, that would be great!
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Patrick
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APR 04, 04:58 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
...when you remove it, you are ... most definitely ... going to get oil pouring down the side of the engine block, onto the oil pan, and God knows where else.
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Not if you puncture a drainage hole in it first. Seriously!
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82-T/A [At Work]
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APR 04, 06:19 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Not if you puncture a drainage hole in it first. Seriously!
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Is that what you do every time you change the oil? It never occurred to me. I'm also wondering if my V6 is also like this... I'm thinking it might be. Seems like a weird design. Even the small block Chevy had a vertical oil filter attachment.
Hmm...
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shemdogg
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APR 04, 07:47 PM
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Vintage-Nut
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APR 04, 07:59 PM
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Stingray92
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APR 04, 08:08 PM
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I bought one of these kits to flush a 3.8 that had been sitting for several years. Not bad overall but I would be weary of the thread sealant of your choice and long term use. As far as poking a hole in the filter that's not a bad option, I had a dedicated funnel setup that I used to use long ago.
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Patrick
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APR 04, 09:43 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I'm also wondering if my V6 is also like this... I'm thinking it might be.
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It is.
| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Is that what you do every time you change the oil? It never occurred to me.
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To be honest, no... but that doesn't mean it isn't a viable option. I read years ago (probably here) that this is how someone dealt with the tilted oil filter issue. I find if I'm real careful when unscrewing the oil filter(s) that oil spillage is minimal. However, if I was to use the "puncture" method, I'd do it in such a manner that I'm not applying any force to the side of the filter when making the hole, just to ensure that no there's no shear force acting on the mount to the block. I'd try to puncture a hole more on the end of the filter. Probably makes very little difference.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 04-04-2024).]
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theogre
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APR 05, 12:36 AM
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Remote filters have own issues/problems.
Oil Change Interval is 1 or 2 per year even "back them" for most owners.
In Dukes, Some Oil runs down the mount thru small drain. You can't stop that only control the mess.
Easiest way, Stuff a rag between block & bracket stops most to all that.
push in tight to "seal" but not so tight rag can't absorb oil.
see https://web.archive.org/web...~fierocave/mount.htm
V6 Some Oil runs down the filter. After you "break it" the filter just use a rag around the filter. ------------------
Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
(Jurassic Park)
The Ogre's Fiero Cave
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fieroguru
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APR 05, 07:02 AM
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Just use a gallon ziplock freezer bag around the filter when removing it. That will collect 95% of the oil in the bag and not make a mess.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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APR 05, 10:09 AM
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Thanks guys, I really appreciate the responses. Honestly, I'm torn.
- On one hand, I'd really like to relocate it to somewhere more reasonable where it doesn't make a huge mess.
- On the other hand, I'm deathly afraid of oil being pressurized in a rubber line, which means the life or death of an engine.
... all other things considered, the engine itself contains the oil pretty well... and there's generally no risk of oil shooting out from some obscure area at high pressure, like it might in an external oil kit, in which case... there would be catastrophic failure. I'm going to think about it. I'll wait until my daughter changes her oil for the first time anyway...
Thanks!
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