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82-T/A [At Work]
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OCT 12, 03:58 PM
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Hey guys, long story short... I'm replacing the fuel sending unit connector in my daughter's 85 Fiero 2m4 SE. She replaced the fuel ending unit, and of course it came with a new connector. The vehicle side of the connector that connects to the ECM / vehicle side... that was really jacked up.. to the point that it was barely held together.
So, I bought this kit:
I obviously only needed one side of it, since the fuel sending unit already had a nice one.
Anyway, as I was splicing into the factory harness, I tugged a little bit on the new connector as I was stripping it, and the wire pulled right now. I then tugged the others, and they pulled directly out too. Basically, these had never been soldered in. I'm super frustrated, because how can these connectors be sold without the wires being soldered in?
Anyway, I now have a useless connector, and I'm trying to figure out where to go from here. Is there any way to remove the three metal pins / prongs from within the connector, so that I can reuse them and properly solder them in like they should have been?
Thanks!
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olejoedad
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OCT 12, 06:03 PM
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Yes, there are tools for that.
They are easy to disassemble.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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OCT 12, 10:44 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Yes, there are tools for that.
They are easy to disassemble. |
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Thanks Old Joe, can you tell me what I should be searching for? Any chance you wouldn't mind sending me an Amazon link?
Thanks!
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Dennis LaGrua
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OCT 12, 10:53 PM
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You can purchase a connector pin removal tool. You choose the proper size on the tool, insert it and press on the catch tab of the pin. The wire with the connection pin depressed can be easily released with the wire attached. Then you insert in back into the new connector housing in the same spot and move on and to the next pin.
That tool can be purchased on eBay or Amazon for under $10.
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olejoedad
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OCT 12, 10:55 PM
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82-T/A [At Work]
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OCT 14, 10:32 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
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OMG!!! Thank you, that's awesome. I had no idea such a thing even existed!!!
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cliffw
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OCT 14, 07:17 PM
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I correctly bent paper clip works for me. Might need the right sized paper clip.
There is a tab on each of the wire's "plug". Pull the wire out, bend the tab upward, and it will lock in place when reinserted.
Did you mean the wire pulled out leaving the connector still in the plug housing ?
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cliffw
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OCT 14, 07:21 PM
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82-T/A [At Work]
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OCT 14, 09:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
Did you mean the wire pulled out leaving the connector still in the plug housing ? |
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Yes, totally infuriating...
| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
I correctly bent paper clip works for me. Might need the right sized paper clip.
There is a tab on each of the wire's "plug". Pull the wire out, bend the tab upward, and it will lock in place when reinserted.
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I already ordered the one from Amazon. I've done something similar before in all kinds of other connectors... but in these GM ones (or faux GM ones), it seemed totally impossible. At least now I can fix this one and solder it in.
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pmbrunelle
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OCT 14, 11:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Anyway, as I was splicing into the factory harness, I tugged a little bit on the new connector as I was stripping it, and the wire pulled right now. I then tugged the others, and they pulled directly out too. Basically, these had never been soldered in. I'm super frustrated, because how can these connectors be sold without the wires being soldered in?
Anyway, I now have a useless connector, and I'm trying to figure out where to go from here. Is there any way to remove the three metal pins / prongs from within the connector, so that I can reuse them and properly solder them in like they should have been?
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Soldering is not normally used in automotive wiring harnesses, as solder can create an inflexible hard point where a breakage could occur with movement.
Crimping is the best method.
If the wires pulled out of the crimp easily, the crimp was not done correctly. Perhaps the crimp terminal was for the incorrect wire gauge, or the tool didn't squish the crimp right.
The fuel sending unit connector (along with many other connectors in the Fiero) is from the Delphi Weather-Pack series.
Look here for crimp terminals:
https://www.bmotorsports.co...1fhqchladcb63l8sa315
Look here for cable seals:
https://www.bmotorsports.co...1fhqchladcb63l8sa315
Look here for a crimping tool:
https://www.bmotorsports.co.../blg/products_id/363
| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
I correctly bent paper clip works for me. Might need the right sized paper clip.
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Weather-Pack uses a tube-shaped depinning tool. It squeezes the tabs on opposite sides of the terminal together to release it from the plastic housing.
A paper clip can sometimes work for other types of terminals with a single retaining tab.
Here is a Weather-Pack depinning tool:
https://www.bmotorsports.co..._113/products_id/367
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