Steering Quickener? (Page 1/3) Additivewalnut JAN 05, 12:21 AM Hey all! Autocross season is over so it's time to tinker. I've found that 3.5 turns lock to lock on the steering is incredibly slow and makes slaloms a real hassle with larger tires. Is there anything I can do short of tracking down a GT rack to quicken up the steering? I've looked into adding an F-body rack but that's gonna be a TON of work... And expensive. I don't know if adding electric power steering would change the ratio at all, and I can't seem to find a definitive answer on that. So I'm left with quickeners. If they exist for this platform. Anyone have any advice? Patrick JAN 05, 02:46 AM I haven't got any advice, but I can certainly commiserate with you in regards to driving a challenging autocross course in a Fiero. I first drove my '84 and then my Formula at autocross events for 10(?) years. I'm no wimp, but it was quite a workout after a dozen runs or so on some days, due to all the wrestling with the steering wheel through slalom after slalom. When I eventually drove my Subie at autocross, with power steering of course... what a freakin' difference! Craig71188 JAN 05, 07:33 AM Steering Quickeners are "universal" - in other words, you will need to fabricated a mount and engineer a way to place it inline with your steering linkage. May or not be legal for your class in Solo II. 1985 Fiero GT JAN 05, 08:07 AM quote Originally posted by Patrick: I haven't got any advice, but I can certainly commiserate with you in regards to driving a challenging autocross course in a Fiero. I first drove my '84 and then my Formula at autocross events for 10(?) years. I'm no wimp, but it was quite a workout after a dozen runs or so on some days, due to all the wrestling with the steering wheel through slalom after slalom. When I eventually drove my Subie at autocross, with power steering of course... what a freakin' difference! I could be wrong, but from what I see a steering quickener increases the gear ratio for fewer turns lock to lock, which would make the wheel significantly harder to steer, and more of a workout. Raydar JAN 05, 12:54 PM "Electric power steering", if it's what I'm picturing, (the under-dash unit) will not change the ratio. It will just allow you to crank the wheel with less effort. To change the ratio, you will need a separate gearbox. Or a different rack and pinion. Additivewalnut JAN 05, 12:56 PM quote Originally posted by Raydar: "Electric power steering", if it's what I'm picturing, (the under-dash unit) will not change the ratio. It will just allow you to crank the wheel with less effort. To change the ratio, you will need a separate gearbox. Or a different rack and pinion. That's what I figured. I wasn't sure if the electric motor had a gearbox integrated into it or what. Additivewalnut JAN 05, 12:59 PM quote Originally posted by Patrick: I haven't got any advice, but I can certainly commiserate with you in regards to driving a challenging autocross course in a Fiero. I first drove my '84 and then my Formula at autocross events for 10(?) years. I'm no wimp, but it was quite a workout after a dozen runs or so on some days, due to all the wrestling with the steering wheel through slalom after slalom. When I eventually drove my Subie at autocross, with power steering of course... what a freakin' difference! I had the privilege of driving a guy's minivan V6 swapped MR2... Power steering was amazing and it made me feel like I was in the stone age when I got back in the Fiero LOL cvxjet JAN 05, 03:27 PM A) You can swap in a Vette or F-body rack- I would then suggest using a 3rd-gen MR2 PS electric pump- mounting it up front for better weight distribution....The pump can simply be hooked up to power and the Fiero speedo-signal.... B) If you don't want to do that, I came up with a way of mounting the stabilizer bars so that their strength varies due to acceleration-squat and brake-dive...To give you an idea how much better steering response is, the first time I drove with the modded mounting, the hair on the back of my neck stood up because it felt like someone was turning the wheel BEFORE I did....here is a link to my post explaining what I did; https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/140674.html I will say though, that the extreme I took mine to makes the rear slippery when nailing it out of a turn- I may back it off a little...but it is really nice having a completely "Neutral" car.... Additivewalnut JAN 05, 08:38 PM quote Originally posted by cvxjet: A) You can swap in a Vette or F-body rack- I would then suggest using a 3rd-gen MR2 PS electric pump- mounting it up front for better weight distribution....The pump can simply be hooked up to power and the Fiero speedo-signal.... B) If you don't want to do that, I came up with a way of mounting the stabilizer bars so that their strength varies due to acceleration-squat and brake-dive...To give you an idea how much better steering response is, the first time I drove with the modded mounting, the hair on the back of my neck stood up because it felt like someone was turning the wheel BEFORE I did....here is a link to my post explaining what I did; https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/140674.html I will say though, that the extreme I took mine to makes the rear slippery when nailing it out of a turn- I may back it off a little...but it is really nice having a completely "Neutral" car.... That's so insanely above my level of intelligence. I don't even understand how you figured that out. I thought I was hot **** putting a rear bar on my 86. Patrick JAN 05, 09:28 PM quote Originally posted by Additivewalnut: I thought I was hot **** putting a rear bar on my 86. Don't sell yourself short. A lot of Fiero owners never get around to doing that very worthwhile suspension mod.