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CrazyDragn JUN 03, 12:24 PM
We may get more done this Wednesday or Thursday.

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CrazyDragn JUN 03, 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by TXOPIE:

Thank you for sharing the process. Please take lots of photos along the way. I have been wanting to see how someone creates a new fiberglass part in this fashion!

I think the front end will be a very cool one-off! But you may want to consider incorporating the same feel & style into the rear as well in some form or fashion to unify it all together.

Please keep posting!



Oh, this Will Not be a One Off, this is the Plug. We Plan on making Quiet a Few of them.

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fierogtlt1 JUN 03, 01:43 PM
It's looking GREAT Your vision for this bumper is giving me some ideas for mine.Keep up the AWESOME job..
deezil JUN 03, 01:45 PM
That's pretty nice! Somebody PhotoShop that last GT in white so know what my 88 is going to look like when I buy one of these from you guys.
CrazyDragn JUN 03, 04:58 PM
Just got off with the Copyright people.

We now have a copyrighted product. this is going to be called the iGTO bumper. MCN: CP5DL-H1TFA-BRJS7

This is exciting!!! IT'S GETTING CLOSER!!!!!!!!!!1

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Pete Matos JUN 04, 01:15 AM
This is an interesting idea. Honestly while it is not my cup of tea I can appreciate what you are doing here. Personally I think that rendering in black has a much better looking front fascia than the yellow one. I would endeavor to make the openings look smaller if possible. In other words give the nod to the history and styling but don't overdo it. The fiero is a very low and sleek looking car and making something with a huge maw will only serve to detract from the look. I do like the front chin spoiler but both the openings and the spoiler need to be as low as possible IMHO to look good on the car. Remember that the yellow car is ALSO a choptop so the overall look of the car is changed substaintially from what it would have been and what might look okay on a chopper might look different on a stocker. Much the way the Archie widebody looks vastly different on a chopper than it does on a stock height notchie. Either way this is an interesting thread and I have always thought the foam method of making custom parts like this is the way to go. Brings visions of the clay models major manufacturers use to model new and prototype cars before they come to metal and plastic. Good luck fellas. Peace

Pete

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jb1 JUN 04, 04:41 AM
How does copyright work with the fact you are copying a design from gm?. true it is going on a fiero but that is like someone having a copyright on a Murci replica they built.. I have no desire to copy it or anything at all but do not see how that would actually stand if someone did make essentially the same product..
Anyways , look forward to seeing more progress..

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Originally posted by CrazyDragn:

Just got off with the Copyright people.

We now have a copyrighted product. this is going to be called the iGTO bumper. MCN: CP5DL-H1TFA-BRJS7

This is exciting!!! IT'S GETTING CLOSER!!!!!!!!!!1




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Boostdreamer JUN 04, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by Pete Matos:

Personally I think that rendering in black has a much better looking front fascia than the yellow one. I do like the front chin spoiler Remember that the yellow car is ALSO a choptop so the overall look of the car is changed substaintially from what it would have been and what might look okay on a chopper might look different on a stocker.

Pete




The black car isn't chopped and it is a better representation of what we hope our final product will resemble. There are other non-chopped cars with this bumper in Terry's photoshop thread. I think it is going to be something that can be added as a single piece and completely blend with the original styling of the rest of the car. That is the goal. I think it will come down to personal preference, though. It will be similar to liking bumperpads or not and liking fastbacks with or without rear wings. It won't be for everyone and of those who like it, they may not like it on all Fieros. Time will tell.

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CrazyDragn JUN 04, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by Pete Matos:
This is an interesting idea. Honestly while it is not my cup of tea I can appreciate what you are doing here. Personally I think that rendering in black has a much better looking front fascia than the yellow one. I would endeavor to make the openings look smaller if possible. In other words give the nod to the history and styling but don't overdo it. The fiero is a very low and sleek looking car and making something with a huge maw will only serve to detract from the look. I do like the front chin spoiler but both the openings and the spoiler need to be as low as possible IMHO to look good on the car. Remember that the yellow car is ALSO a choptop so the overall look of the car is changed substaintially from what it would have been and what might look okay on a chopper might look different on a stocker. Much the way the Archie widebody looks vastly different on a chopper than it does on a stock height notchie. Either way this is an interesting thread and I have always thought the foam method of making custom parts like this is the way to go. Brings visions of the clay models major manufacturers use to model new and prototype cars before they come to metal and plastic. Good luck fellas. Peace

Pete



The yellow 'car' is not copyrighted, the bumper is what is now copyrighted. GM copyrights the name therfore we have an extra 'i' infront of ours making it 'ours'. with the forward lip spoiler on the front altering the bumper more than 20% is the law. The black bumper is the bumper of choice being made currently (bottom lip forward). Both the top forward and the bottom forward design are what is in the copyright book currently. I too like the foam method of making the bumper. It allows you to alter as you go or even add to it as you go, either way if you mess up you always add more or take away more.
Thanks for you pointing out some of the issues
Jason

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CrazyDragn JUN 04, 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by jb1:
How does copyright work with the fact you are copying a design from gm?. true it is going on a fiero but that is like someone having a copyright on a Murci replica they built.. I have no desire to copy it or anything at all but do not see how that would actually stand if someone did make essentially the same product..
Anyways , look forward to seeing more progress..



Because we altered the bumper more than 20%, then by law we are not copying much more than using it as a 'guideline'. this is not the whole car but the front bumper that is altered.
Because it didn't come factory on the fiero nor did it come factory on the GTO the way we are building it - then we can call it our own design and fabricate it within the laws that govern copyright.
This also helps keep others from copying our design or similarities for the fiero.

That is the safe way to keep your stuff from others being able to take your designs or projects and use them for their own.
We wanted a copyright so we could keep this legal and to keep our ideas - for our own.
Great question....thanks for the interests,
Jason

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