'68-69 GTO Nose - The Project has Begun! (Page 24/60)
FieroGTRwideboby JUN 04, 11:29 PM
Okay. I agree it is a private matter. The 20% thing isn't true. The OEM's (BMW, Audi, Mclaren, Volvo) I worked for also have lawyers (many of them) and as a designer I do know what is protected and how it works. Good luck proving your design is 20% different, to one person its going to be 9% to another 15%, there is no measurable variable, its all subjective...

The last thing I would worry about is someone stealing my idea.

fierogtlt1 JUN 04, 11:30 PM
Makes me wonder if I need to do this for the tail light lenses that I am in the process of making in the Mall section.
turbodad JUN 04, 11:50 PM
I won't be needing your medical expertise, but thanks for the love. Yes a sledgehammer. Unless you are Michelangelo that chunk of foam is headed for disaster. I want to help. If you don't like the firebird grill, try drawing out the outline of the grill on a large piece of cardboard. Then use a can of in-expensive spray foam to trace the outline of the grill, like one to two inches thick. After it dries shape it with a file and cover with foil. Lay on lightweight glass and body filler to form a model. Knock that snout off and hold your newly formed grill up to the frame. You will see that you need a lot less material to make it look proportional and span the area between the fenders, hood and grill. Look at the photo shops and a see what I mean by proportional. Also you seem little hot headed. If that hunk of foam is indicative of your surgical skills I hope your brother is a malpractice attorney. Just kidding really. On with the build. I just want this forum to remain a place for " free" exchange of ideas. Not a legal mine field.
CrazyDragn JUN 04, 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboNot worried one bit, just covering my own and thus the parties invalled on azzesby:

Okay. I agree it is a private matter. The 20% thing isn't true. The OEM's (BMW, Audi, Mclaren, Volvo) I worked for also have lawyers (many of them) and as a designer I do know what is protected and how it works. Good luck proving your design is 20% different, to one person its going to be 9% to another 15%, there is no measurable variable, its all subjective...

The last thing I would worry about is someone stealing my idea.



I'm not worried one bit.
Just covering my and the other parties involed in this projects own azzes.
That being said, I also have worked as an Aerospace Engineer, Hell helped develope the first 360 degree camera on a helo that chased OJ Simpson and know what the laws are too. I changed my degree becuase I was bored.
Doesn't matter about what perspective is - heck just look at Clinton.

All I care about at this point is getting back to the build - not this petty crap.;
God loves you and so do I. God has blessed me and I pray for any of those who post on this thread to be of positve process and uplift your brethren. We have too much petty downdraft in this world to just go arounfd throwing thoguths and accusations to just sit around and play smart people who think that just because they can put something down that maybe they should.
Let's keep it simple folks
keep it clean,
Speak good of one another
and I will do the same
Thank you and God Bless you if you post.
Thank you for your thoughts
Jason

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FieroGTRwideboby JUN 04, 11:54 PM
Something to clarify the 10% rule. Page 132 All elements article.

http://books.google.com/boo...t%20change%20rule%20 %20for%20patent&f=false

http://drawsketch.about.com...es/a/copyright_2.htm

http://painting.about.com/c.../f/copyrightfaq6.htm

http://tacticalip.com/2012/...ign-around-a-patent/

... Myth whether you talk about art, or design...
fierogtlt1 JUN 05, 12:04 AM
GTR
turbodad JUN 05, 12:05 AM
As evidenced by "Fierogtlt1" others are already thinking of protecting their stuff......slippery slope. I will leave you alone point made.
Pete Matos JUN 05, 12:52 AM
Wow this is just nutz. I mean I can certainly understand protecting yourself and your ideas when it comes to money. However what I can't understand is the idea that you guys have a simple drawing and have not even made a prototype yet and you are already worried about copyrights? I mean the reality is that this product, if it ever actually becomes a product, is made for a car that is no longer made and the following is very much quite limited even in these circles that I would be really surprised if you actually sold more than a dozen of these noses once the prototyping and mold making stages are completed. The kind of profit you could expect from the sale of these things would most likely never come close to paying for even a single lawsuit to protect the design. There are several other folks here who make all sorts of cool and interesting body parts and interior parts many with the possibility of a lot more volume and I don't recall reading about their applications for a patent or copyright let alone lawyering up family lawyer or otherwise. To be honest with you it would have been much better appearing if you indeed were after some sorta patent to just keep quiet about it and once the product is actually ready for sale just make a webpage and put the patent information in the details there. Honestly like I said while the design is definitely not my cup of tea it has some merit obviously and I sincerely wish you the best of luck with it. Just do yourself a favor and leave the patent and lawyer stuff aside until you actually need it. Good luck with it man. peace

Pete

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coady JUN 05, 07:55 AM
any new updates on the bumper.... want to see it and not read all this other stuff......
guys keep doing what your doing and hopefully all will work out...
fierogtlt1 JUN 05, 12:07 PM
Yeah That