Finale Roadster, The Build (Page 3/49)
Formula88 AUG 18, 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by DanielKJenkins:

Cool!

What about the frame rigidity? Is there some lost during the top removal?

I want one of these real bad.


Yes. You have to reinforce the frame before you cut the roof off. Done properly, there's no noticeable difference in rigidity.

grathke AUG 18, 08:19 PM
I guess this is a stupdi question, but I'll ask anyway. Is the Finale Speedster body in production, a prototype, etc... Hoping this will be a kit. I'm wanting to buy a Fino shortly, but can easily wait if this is going into production.

What type of frame reenforcing is needed. Can the average garage hacker do this ?

Thanks
grathke

linenoise AUG 18, 08:25 PM
Damn it Archie I still haven't recoeved from the fever thread now you spring this upon me. and then hintg at the LS1 Damn you to heck.
Archie AUG 19, 12:23 AM
Let me give you today's update & answer some of your questions.

Only one guy (Rob) worked on the Roadster today. Getting ready to do the frame stiffeners before we cut off the roof framing. We spend a few hours getting the Plasma cutter hooked up to a 230v line. Usually on a convertable Fiero or any Fiero chassis that has the roof removed permanetly a Frame stiffener is put underneath the car to try to keep it straight. That usually works pretty good & takes 90% of any flex out of the car. However with everything we are going to put on this car I want that chassis 100% solid. So while we have this apart We're going to add some steel inside the car to really make it rock solid. Back when I built the Suicide doors on the Stinger, We WAY OVERBUILT the hinges and framing around the hinges & the door frames to be as solid as possible. It's a lot easier to overbuild it now than re-build it later. Considering the little accident Jeff had with the Stinger door, it would be interesting to know if He's glad we overbuilt it from the get go. I'm figuring that we will be adding about 100 pounds to the weight of the finished car. Anyway We'll be showing you all the steel work & We'll show you how we will evaluate the stiffness when we're done with the steel work. We added about 80# to the Stinger by overbuilding it & I'll bet that Jeff is a lot happier with that extra 80# than he ever thought he'd be.

Now to answer some of the questions.

Philphine & others asking about the LS1: All the prototyping is done on the LS1 stick shift kit & it's been undergoing testing and documentation for a week or more now. Most of the parts are now in production and a couple of them are done already. We'll have more details on that as the build of this car continues.

Please note that all of the pictures I've been posting for more than a year now & all the pictures I'll post on this thread & other threads are Hosted on my own web site & are not wasting Cliff's server space.

KissMySSFiero: Right now the plan is for this one to be a stick. However the design work on the Automatic version is about done. I plan on driving this car a lot & I like sticks better.

Black-Azz-GT: As I picked the pedals off of a Daisy...... "It'll be a 4.9...It'll be an LS1....It'll be a 4.9...It'll be an LS1....It'll be a 4.9...It'll be an LS1....It'll be a 4.9...It'll be an LS1" It was close but I picked the LS1

blakeinspace: It's an '87 I think, stock Fieros all look the same to me.

grathke: The Fino & Finale both use the same rear clip, just the way the part is trimmed is the only difference as to wether it's a Fino or Finale rear clip. We do plan to take molds off of the parts we develope for this roadster & plan to make those parts available to those building kits at home.

linenoise: I gotta get back to that Fever thread, I have at least 50 more pics to put up there.

Someone asked when the car is going to be done......... That depends on how busy we are over the next few weeks. Right now we have only one customer car under construction and it's the 1st time in at least 6 months that we've had the time to play. I'm sure it won't be done in time for Fierorama but it will definately be done long before the WOW show. Heck my next chop top should also be done by then too.

I think that should cover it.

I also want to formally introduce you to me "Crew".

From the right.... the Tall one is Rob, He's been with me for >3 years. 24 years old, just became a Daddy last month. In the middle is Kris, 21 He's been with me for >2 years & just became a daddy this last weekend. They are more like family than employees, they're both kinda shy but great kids. They're trying to teach me how to be hip, I think that's what they call it now days. These 2 guys are sharp, If I would have know as much about cars when I was their age, I'd be a millionare by now. The fellow on the left is Terry, Summer help, this is his last week back to H.S. soon. But He'll have something to tell his grandkids someday.

Archie

Formula88 AUG 19, 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by Archie:
They're trying to teach me how to be hip, I think that's what they call it now days.
Archie

Yeah. I used to be with "it." Then "it" changed. Heck, I don't even know what it is anymore.

mrfixit58 AUG 19, 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by Archie:


... They're trying to teach me how to be hip, I think that's what they call it now days. ...

Archie


Just don't start walking around with your underwear handing out and your pants below your butt. Then again, it may be a little less shocking then that bend-over-butt-crack look that has worked for you for so long!

p.s. Great project, great thread.


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vwaltdog AUG 19, 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by DanFiero:

So we have the Finale and we have the Fino I suppose we will now have the Finito??

Looks good Aus and Arch!!! Keep up the good work!!

Dan


please don't call it the Flinto sounds too much like Pinto

Kohburn AUG 19, 10:50 AM
hey archie, something i've been wondering since i first saw a finale.. with the fenders being nice and snug around the wheels, are most of the fino's and finale's riding at the stock ride height? or lower? how lowered? tired of the fiero monstertruck wheel wells
LZeitgeist AUG 19, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by Archie:
From the right.... the Tall one is Rob, He's been with me for >3 years. 24 years old, just became a Daddy last month. In the middle is Kris, 21 He's been with me for >2 years & just became a daddy this last weekend. They are more like family than employees, they're both kinda shy but great kids. They're trying to teach me how to be hip, I think that's what they call it now days. These 2 guys are sharp, If I would have know as much about cars when I was their age, I'd be a millionare by now.

Archie


Rob and Kris are the ones who worked on my Automoda conversion, and were fantastic to work with. I was never, ever worried for a second having these guys (and Archie) working on my 5x trophy-winning Formula.

I hope I get to be i your neck of the woods again someday, Archie. After spending a week up there with you guys, it feels like a sort of 'home away from home'.

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Patrick W. Heinske -- LZeitgeist@aol.com
1988 Red Fiero Formula Convertible

Archie AUG 19, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by mrfixit58:


Just don't start walking around with your underwear handing out and your pants below your butt. Then again, it may be a little less shocking then that bend-over-butt-crack look that has worked for you for so long!


ROFLMAO

You don't know the half of it.... or should I say you haven't seen the half of it.