'68-69 GTO Nose - The Project has Begun! (Page 4/60)
josef644 MAY 04, 08:48 PM
Another type of GTO grill. Here come Da Judge:
Boostdreamer MAY 04, 08:57 PM
Of course I like the Judge, I prefer the empty look of those two big wide grills! Without the headlights showing, it gives the car a very wide look which makes it look very aggressive.


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Jonathan

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Boostdreamer MAY 04, 09:15 PM

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Originally posted by Banshee:

Can we see the rest of the pics please.



The pics I posted are the final versions of the photoshops. They combine the elements of the previous ones. Both the yellow and black cars have the nose mod, each a little different, but they also both have the LED headlight door mod. The black fastback shows a "shorty" style fastback where it only extends halfway to the rear of the car. The black car is what I want my personal car to look like, paint scheme, body mods, and all.

The GTO photoshops began here:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F.../HTML/068738-40.html


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Jonathan

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CowsPatoot MAY 04, 10:31 PM
I am keeping an eye on this. I really like the bumper, but She Who Must Be Obeyed thinks it should remain a bumperpad. My photoshop was done in an attempt to convince her...and we decided to put off further discussion until we are prepping for paint. So...if this is not ready for purchase before the car is ready for paint, then I will lose.

I am more of a fan of the original yellow photoshop. The black one isn't too bad...but I like how the yellow one is so much shorter (will the original metal bumper fit under that?)


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Originally posted by Boostdreamer:
Our big discussion now is how will we do the insides of the two big cut-outs. The GTO had horizontal lines that I'm not crazy about. We kicked around the idea of louvers like the Barracuda.


The horizontal lines are critical to me...it is one of the things that screams "PONTIAC". Of course, that also means I vote against the Barracuda style louvers.


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Originally posted by Boostdreamer:
We also thought of having the passenger side having FIERO GTO script and then make a blank space to the far right of the driver's side for mounting either a Fiero nose badge or a Pontiac Arrowhead, etc. We'll get to work on photoshops of this idea.


I think it would be far easier to add that lettering on an individual basis than to remove it. Being forced to buy one that has the "FIERO GTO" lettering in it would be a huge strike against it for me.


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Originally posted by Boostdreamer:
Another thing we're looking at is the possibliity of making a matching hood scoop as shown here:


As long as it is a completely separate part like the photoshop so that we could choose whether or not we want it on an individual basis, then I always support more choices in hood vents...but I think the bumper should be the primary concern (as you can probably tell, I don't care for the hood scoop).


Something that hasn't been mentioned....and is missing in all the photoshops (except mine)...I think it needs to be made to accept the front arrow shaped molding of the aero front bumpers. Again, it is easier to smooth that part out than to add it in...and I assume most people would want it.

One other point....I thought Jimmy S (FieroFiberglass) mentioned that they were working on one of these...you may want to verify whether or not you have competition before you put too much work into it. Of course, I would love to have the difficult decision of deciding who's I like better.

Just my opinion....it is worth about what you paid for it. Naturally, I want my car to look just like my photoshop.

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Boostdreamer MAY 04, 11:12 PM
We cannot guarantee completion of this project much less a time frame. I can't advise you to wait for it.

Yes the yellow one is shorter and that will be how we will do it. The black one is shown too long. I didn't see a need to ask Terry to shorten it. It gave me the needed visual aid. We are leaning toward having the lower part extend out further as a nod to another Pontiac, the Firebird from the 70's. I also think that this design will aid down force and add stability at higher speeds. The last thing our cars need is something that will lift the nose further.

We are leaving the front corrugated metal crash bar on the front and sculpting over it. It will remain in tact and be covered. The eggcrate will not be re-used. Maybe we can find a way to add some eggcrate-like strengthening supports inside the casting.

The grills can be done so many different ways that we might make them interchangeable and replaceable. That way you can have yours, your way. It will also mean that yours isn't like everybody else's.

The hood scoop section will ABSOLUTELY be a separate piece. We hope it will be desireable by itself or with the GTO nose.

We have already discussed the ends of the marker lights will be pointed and molded in just like on the GT Aero bumpers. It was supposed to be like that in the photoshops but there again, at the time, there was no need to make Terry do extra work for small details.

I have no knowledge of ANYONE working on a similar project. It is a free country and I don't own the design. I can't fault anyone for giving it a shot. In fact, I tried to get others to make it but no one ever showed interest.

I appreciate the interest and the details that you're concerned about! Keep the comments coming! Obviously, if this becomes a marketable product, we want it to be the best it can be!


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CowsPatoot MAY 05, 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by Boostdreamer:
We cannot guarantee completion of this project much less a time frame. I can't advise you to wait for it.



I had no intentions of waiting. If we get to the point of bodywork and I can't buy this bumper, then my choice will be either to make it myself or stay with the bumperpad.



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Originally posted by Boostdreamer:
Yes the yellow one is shorter and that will be how we will do it. The black one is shown too long. I didn't see a need to ask Terry to shorten it. It gave me the needed visual aid. We are leaning toward having the lower part extend out further as a nod to another Pontiac, the Firebird from the 70's. I also think that this design will aid down force and add stability at higher speeds. The last thing our cars need is something that will lift the nose further.



Sounds great....my issue with the black one was the length, not the angle. If I could choose, I still think I would go with the yellow one....but I would still buy a shorter black one (I would not have purchased the long black one).



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Originally posted by Boostdreamer:
The grills can be done so many different ways that we might make them interchangeable and replaceable. That way you can have yours, your way. It will also mean that yours isn't like everybody else's.



If I can't purchase the grills the way I want them, that simply means I have to make my own...doesn't change the value of the fiberglass parts. Even if you made them with the Barracuda style...it would still be easier for me to modify it to the way I want than to start from scratch.



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Originally posted by Boostdreamer:
I appreciate the interest and the details that you're concerned about! Keep the comments coming! Obviously, if this becomes a marketable product, we want it to be the best it can be!



Sounds like the project is moving in a direction that would make me happy. I was actually planning to make one myself when I got to the bodywork stage of the convertible...and it would have been a shame not to make a mold. This keeps getting referred to as a GTO bumper....but it actually resembles the 67-68 Firebird much more. I have been keeping my eye out for a 67-68 Firebird bumper that I could take measurements from for verification...but it looked to me like I would be able to simply cut the front off the Formula style nose, blend the actual Firebird bumper into it, then use that for the plug (wouldn't trust blending the urethane and metal for actual use on the car....guaranteed to crack).
CrazyDragn MAY 05, 07:35 AM
We were also talking about the option of putting the turn signal light behind the grills in the corners next to the fenders.
therefor they would only be seen when flashing.

As far as I know as well JimmyS is NOT working on these. I will call him monday to confirm though. Wouldn't matter anyways because we first started this for BoostDreamers personal car, we will just simply make a mold from that.

Keep up the ideas / opinions so we can make something that you would buy too.

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Ang84Indy MAY 05, 11:41 AM
I'm keeping an eye on this... potential customer here.
Ram426 MAY 05, 11:49 AM
Love the yellow with the open grille, fricken awesome
Lou6t4gto MAY 05, 02:29 PM
Like the Black "Chin forward".