Jordan's 3800 sc swap thread (Page 1/2)
ignorant prodigy SEP 04, 11:59 PM
First.. going to say Thanks to everyone who has helped me this past year or so.
I've annoyed just about everyone who's done this swap in private messages about some issues and questions I had
Everyone was very helpful and it made my swap go by fairly easily.. THANKS for doing it before me..and knowing what you're talking about.

What it is/was:
1987 Fiero GT Auto V6 with 170,000 miles
Purchased 5/23/06

What it has:
1998 L67 and 4T65E-HD with roughly 60K
WCF Aluminum cradle bushings
Fieroflyer wiring
PR Tranny and Engine mounts
and all the associated goodies.. like walbro fuel pump, TOG heades, N* TB....so on so forth

I fired it up this past Saturday.. Took it for the first drive around the block today!

Here are a bunch of the photo's.. I haven't been able to take any pictures of it completed yet because the camera has died!
I will likely get pics taken tomorrow when it's done charging.

Here are the pictures up to this point..

before anything was done



Misc interior parts being replaced



Taking out the old beating engine










My old engine out.. infront of the new one


My interior wiring harness taken apart.. whoops

Now back together


Cut out trunk


New firewall insulation


New dirty Engine and Tranny




Had an issue with my AC delete working


My freshly painted Cradle


Fuel Tank done.. new sending unit, filter, and walbro pump


Old FP and sending unit



New freshly painted engine.. btw.. the fuel rails didn't even come close to clearing the trunk lid.. I went ahead and bought zzp fuel logs...



Had an issue with trying to get my mounts to line up






New engine mounted up to the cradle

I did not keep this belt routing.. it was too lose



My axle build




Dan's wiring harness installed


New engine installed!





I will have completed pics soon!!

thanks again everyone for your help

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87GT
Massachusetts
ignorantprodigy@aol.com

[This message has been edited by ignorant prodigy (edited 09-05-2007).]

RandomTask SEP 05, 12:12 AM
You had problems with the fuel rails clearing the decklid? Who made your mounts? are you running an IC?
ignorant prodigy SEP 05, 12:24 AM
No IC ..and using PR mounts

The reason they didn't quite clear was because I didn't bend them back far enough. I didn't realize how high it was going to sit once the engine was in the car

You can kind of see it in this photo.. the angle isn't right but the line with the blue fitting is the one I had the issue with


It may have just cleared because I've only done a test fitting with the trunk lid.. but it was too close for my liking either way.. plus the fuel logs give it a much more professional look.. and give me an excuse to get an IC down the road

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multmigs SEP 05, 08:42 AM
U R The man!! I'm doing the same swap, although on hold for a bit due to other projects, can you please post some info on the axles portion, I'm using the exact same mounts etc as you so I would think that things would work the same on our 2 cars?? I'm looking to know what axle (s) you used at which location and if you made them up from other axles exactly what parts go where?? Everything you posted looks GREAT otherwise!!

TIA

Migs
Riceburner98 SEP 05, 11:06 AM
So when do I get a ride? Man I wish I lived closer to the car. (haven't worked on it in a long time now) The 3800's are becoming more common than normal Fieros around these parts!

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ignorant prodigy SEP 05, 11:27 AM
Whenever you want Bob!
Thanks for your help the other day.. I wound up digging out the old fiero engine harness (glad I kept that) and found that little terminal thing for the power wires.

I'm having a little problem with it.
I drove it around the block and it drives normal.. my idle seems good and it shifts good.
But when I turn on the lights..then brake.. the car starts to stall out. Like it's pulling a big amount of power from the car.
One headlight motor doesn't work..and the brake booster is full of fluid..
I don't think it's vaccum because with the lights off it brakes just fine

So some sort of short or something
(how's that for alliteration)
Migs,

It was actually easier than I thought it'd be
The Driver's side was plug and play.. automatic fiero driver's side plugged right in

The passenger side was where you needed to take it apart.
The picture below was taken from Back On Holiday's build thread. Hoep he doesn't mind me using it.
The Fiero Outer all the way on the left is actually one from a manual Fiero.
You will need a manual Fiero hub (spindle, knuckle, whatever) and outer. The rest is just putting them all together.


I suggest getting a good set of snap ring pliers. I got one with a variety of heads at autozone..
I also used a hammer to tap out the balls with a screw driver wrapped in a rag.. Brake cleaner worked well cleaning up the old axle grease.
RandomTask SEP 05, 11:35 AM
I've never heard of the fuel lines hitting the decklid, its a close fit, but shouldn't be hitting it. It looks like you'd run into a prob with that alt before anything else.
darkhorizon SEP 05, 02:06 PM
did you hook up the TCC brake switch to the PCM? It sounds like the TC is staying locked when you hit the brakes.
ignorant prodigy SEP 06, 03:00 PM
It's definately a voltage thing


Here she is in all her dirty glory..
I have a lot of cleanign up to do.. the wires are still a mess and everything is all out in the open.. I just wanted to see if she started before I buttoned it up.







And here's a bunch of crap that came out of it
rwlekey SEP 06, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by ignorant prodigy:

It's definately a voltage thing


Here she is in all her dirty glory..

And here's a bunch of crap that came out of it



Jordan--
did you swap cradles? is the one in the pic any good?