'88 Fiero Build "War Hammer" (Page 1/24)
War Hammer FEB 10, 01:29 PM
So here begins the story of my '88 Fiero, War Hammer.

I purchased the car from Josh "Pacethis" and picked it up on February 2nd, 2008. As many of you know I bought the car on eBay for $6000.00. It is an '88 with an ACE 3800sc Series 1 conversion, Konis, 18x7.5 rims, 5spd, fastback conversion, and most importantly, a C5 dash conversion.

It makes a good starting point for what I have planned - BIG brakes (13" or bigger Corvette, Viper, Porsche or 350z), 3800sc Series 2 conversion, G6 6spd conversion, Archie's widebody kit, rollcage, and finish the interior. Now this is the plan for '08. The trick is I need to come in around $6k for all of this (that is the budget the wife set) and be done in time for the Hilton Head Island track days and concours. By the way, this will be a street, road course, autocross car.

For '09 I want to chop the top, vinyl wrap (I like to change things up to often to paint), and install a killer sound system.

I will need a lot of help from you all for parts sources, diagrams, etc during this build so any is appreciated. I have limited knowledge when it comes to mechanical things but can follow directions well.

The Motor


The Body and Wheels







The Interior






Does anybody make a 13" or 14" brake kit that doesn't ue the '88 calipers?
Who makes the best rolcages for Fieros? (yes I know it wilhave to be recut after the chop later).
Does Purle Reign have a pricelist?

Thank you in advance for any help and positive comments and suggestions on thi project.
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1988 Fiero
3800SC Series 1 w/5spd
Coilovers
18's w/Pirellis
Corvette Dash Mod

1985 GT
1986 Notchie
1987 Notchie

[This message has been edited by War Hammer (edited 02-15-2008).]

88White3.4GT FEB 10, 02:38 PM
Will you be widening the rear wheel to use up the space with the wide body?

To post pictures, there is a thing called PIP, which i dont use. I usually take photos, and
upload them to photobucket, then i use the [img..] line they provide and paste into a comment.

What do you mean by "vinyl wrap"? Put vinyl wrap on the chopped top? :0
madcurl FEB 10, 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by War Hammer:
Does anybody make a 13" or 14" brake kit that doesn't ue the '88 calipers?




Several options. D1S (13" Corvette), WCF (Viper 13"), Held's 13", and a few homebrews 13". I have D1S 13" on an 88, but D1S is currently having communication issues. You'll save more monies using an homebrew kit (if offered) but I don't know of any issues concerning those kits and neither do I regarding WCFs.

Future plan 13/14 combo; You'll need big boy rims to clear the 14" rear rotor and 18" for the fronts, but certain 17" will clear a 13" rotor.

58.5 pounds total weight for 13/14 combo


14" weight


13" weight

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"Anyone can make a copy of something, it may look good, but never is the real car. Make something from your imagination, something unique, something nobody has, anything is possible and, ideas can become a reality; Archie and the Crew can make your Dreams into a reality."

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 02-10-2008).]

Zac88GT FEB 10, 03:13 PM
The 6 speed conversion is pretty much gauranteed to suck up at least $2000. I spent about $2500 on mine doing everything myself, and there wasn't a whole lot of room to make things much cheaper.
War Hammer FEB 10, 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by 88White3.4GT:

Will you be widening the rear wheel to use up the space with the wide body?

To post pictures, there is a thing called PIP, which i dont use. I usually take photos, and
upload them to photobucket, then i use the [img..] line they provide and paste into a comment.

What do you mean by "vinyl wrap"? Put vinyl wrap on the chopped top? :0




I will probably be using 3" hubcentric spacers.

Thanks for the help!

Paul

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1988 Fiero
3800SC Series 1 w/5spd
Coilovers
18's w/Pirellis
Corvette Dash Mod

1985 GT
1986 Notchie
1987 Notchie

War Hammer FEB 10, 07:49 PM

quote
Originally posted by 88White3.4GT:

Will you be widening the rear wheel to use up the space with the wide body?

To post pictures, there is a thing called PIP, which i dont use. I usually take photos, and
upload them to photobucket, then i use the [img..] line they provide and paste into a comment.

What do you mean by "vinyl wrap"? Put vinyl wrap on the chopped top? :0



A vinyl wrap is what they use on most race cars today and those vehicles you see covered in advertising graphics all over are usually wraps also. What you do is go to a sign shop that offers them and they cover your car in a special vinyl instead of painting. Around here the retail is around 1K; I know some suppliers so I can get it for around 500-600 depending on the graphics (inks). By utilizing this I can afford to change colors/graphics frequently.

Hope this helps.
~Paul

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1988 Fiero
3800SC Series 1 w/5spd
Coilovers
18's w/Pirellis
Corvette Dash Mod

1985 GT
1986 Notchie
1987 Notchie

War Hammer FEB 10, 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by madcurl:


Several options. D1S (13" Corvette), WCF (Viper 13"), Held's 13", and a few homebrews 13". I have D1S 13" on an 88, but D1S is currently having communication issues. You'll save more monies using an homebrew kit (if offered) but I don't know of any issues concerning those kits and neither do I regarding WCFs.

Future plan 13/14 combo; You'll need big boy rims to clear the 14" rear rotor and 18" for the fronts, but certain 17" will clear a 13" rotor.

58.5 pounds total weight for 13/14 combo


14" weight


13" weight




Hi Curly,

I have 18"s already on it so 14" rotors should fit. As far as where to get the adapters from WCF I hear take way too long. The car has to be rolling (or more apropriately stopping) within 60 days. D1S sounds ok if they are going to get over their communication problems soon. If I can't find an easy solution soon (this week) I'll start creating one witha fab shop.

Thanks for your input! Keep it coming!

~Paul

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1988 Fiero
3800SC Series 1 w/5spd
Coilovers
18's w/Pirellis
Corvette Dash Mod

1985 GT
1986 Notchie
1987 Notchie

War Hammer FEB 10, 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by Zac88GT:

The 6 speed conversion is pretty much gauranteed to suck up at least $2000. I spent about $2500 on mine doing everything myself, and there wasn't a whole lot of room to make things much cheaper.



What costs soo much? Please forgive my ignorance but the trannys themselves are only 500 delivered brand new.

Thanks.

~Paul

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1988 Fiero
3800SC Series 1 w/5spd
Coilovers
18's w/Pirellis
Corvette Dash Mod

1985 GT
1986 Notchie
1987 Notchie

darkhorizon FEB 10, 08:04 PM
The 6speed upgrade offers very little over a stock fiero transmission, and a huge price upgrade.

Between adapter plates, intermediate shafts, custom axles, shifter cables, cable brackets, mounts, and fully custom clutch makes the 6speed swap more complex than any other swap you could do, motor or transmission.

[This message has been edited by darkhorizon (edited 02-10-2008).]

War Hammer FEB 10, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by darkhorizon:

The 6speed upgrade offers very little over a stock fiero transmission, and a huge price upgrade.

Between adapter plates, intermediate shafts, custom axles, shifter cables, cable brackets, mounts, and fully custom clutch makes the 6speed swap more complex than any other swap you could do, motor or transmission.




I thought the trans bolted directly to a series 2?