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Trinten
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MAY 03, 11:03 AM
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I currently have 5 sets ready to ship. Please PM me with your zip code and if you want the weld on kit or the u-nut kit.
The price is 250.00 plus shipping. Currently the Medium Flat Rate shipping boxes from USPS are ideal for shipping. I am insuring them which adds a few dollars. If you want to ballpark your own shipping costs in advance, you can check it out on USPS using 27302 as the originating zip code for the Medium flat rate boxes.
For some history on where this came from, and how I got to sell it.
Years ago, FieroObsessed discovered a GM truck window motor that he figured out how to fit into his Fiero, and that window motor was much faster than the stock window motors. He also discovered that the tolerances in Fiero doors are so loose that even after replicating his exact measurements on the other door he had issues. He was kind enough to post up all the information, but couldn't commit to any kind of kit.
FieroGuru and Rodney Dickman collaborated and developed a kit that wasn't quite drop in (needs some small trimming on the regulator/scissor assembly, one new hole drilled and two others opened up a little -- and that's before you decide if you wanted to use J-nuts or weld on nuts). Rodney, always looking to bring us a quality product, would only use NOS GM window motors, because many of the aftermarket groups don't want to pay for the QA/QC to get quality parts from China.
After he sold as many of the sets of American/Mexico OEM motors that he could get, he ceased sales.
I reached out to him and asked if I could purchase any materials, notes, etc, and the rights to sell his kit again, using Chinese motors where necessary, and would be transparent on this fact. He agreed and he sent me everything he had (and both he and FieroGuru have been very patient with me in asking follow up questions). You can follow part of my learning curve and efforts to be ready to bring this back to market here: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/100324.html
Right now, I have 21 sets of Rodneys original adapters. I have purchased OEM American/Mexico motors in bulk for one side, and Chinese motors for the other. I have sourced out the pigtails, and inventoried all of the fasteners that Rodney included with my purchase.
I have modified the adapter on the one side to fit the Chinese motor (it requires opening up the back of the adapter a little for the motor shaft. The Chinese units use webbing around them for reinforcement, instead of a thick collar like the Mexico/American motors use).
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/100324.html
I will post up how many I have ready to ship, and will only accept money if I have a set ready to go. So payment details will be handled via PM on a first come, first serve basis.
I am also working with a machinist to be able to continue to product a variation of these adapters once I've sold all of Rodney's. It's definitely been a learning curve!
Installation information can be found here: http://rodneydickman.com/pr...ge=8&products_id=383 Currently, my "U-Nut" fastener kit does*not* include the stepper drill bit. This is part of why I am not charging extra for it.
Please note that Rodney's comments on the advanced nature of this kit still apply. It is not a 'drop in' kit, there is modification that needs to be done to the scissor assembly, and care needs to be done when drilling holes and/or welding on nuts to ensure proper placement/alignment.
All motors are tested after modifications. Some FAQ stuff
The passenger side motor is the Chinese motor. Part of the reason why Rodney stopped selling the kits is because he could no longer find any US or Mexico made (the OEM motors) for any of the interchange for that side. I do try to hunt down the OEM Mexico motors, and I even talked with the suppliers that I bought the batch of US / Mex motors for the driver side and told them if they ever got their hands on them, to let me know! No luck yet. I still scour the internet about once a month to see if any turn up. Sadly once the motors got past their 7 year "must make parts available" shelf life, GM let all of it go over to China.
"What happens when the warranty is up? Can we replace the motor ourselves?" the adapter plate is only part of it. The motor housing undergoes three modifications as well - trimming, leveling, and threading of different parts. What I will offer is if the Chinese motor fails after the warranty period, I will modify and sell replacement units at cost. I won't charge for my labor/tooling time. That means the same price you'd pay if you bought it from someplace like RockAuto (plus shipping) is what an end user would pay me, only it shows up ready to go in.
I would ask folks to ship me back the dead one so I can see what went wrong. This will let me go back to the manufacturer and other companies and see if there's a better supplier out there for the Chinese ones, by citing what failed. Same goes for any of the American/Mexico ones (as a matter of fact, I need to replace one of my American / Mexico motors, it "stutters" when it gets to the top, like it's skipping a tooth. Not thrilled about that. Goes to show even OEM has issues sometimes!)
If someone really wants to go through the work of modding the motor themselves, I'll give them the part number (or they can see the part numbers in FieroObsessed's thread).
Shipping I use flatrate shipping boxes. Typically for one kit I use the Medium sized box. I don't upcharge for shipping or the insurance, I eat the nominal cost for the tape, bubble wrap, and the trip to the post office.[This message has been edited by Trinten (edited 09-08-2024).]
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LornesGT
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MAY 12, 11:42 PM
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Received the brackets, looks like fine workmanship. Hopefully it won’t take a couple of years to get them mounted.
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Trinten
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MAY 15, 03:24 PM
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Quick update.
I have one pair of adapted motors left right now.
I plan to make a few more this weekend. I will post inventory updates as things change.
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Trinten
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MAY 22, 08:09 PM
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I have 6 sets ready to go!
I also plan on finishing a few more so I can bring some to Carlisle and the 40th, if anyone wants to check them out in person and buy them at that time.
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Trinten
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JUN 05, 09:33 PM
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I have five sets right now.
To help give me a little breathing room with costs for the upcoming 40th Anniversary (and hopefully Carlisle), any orders placed/paid for by June 16th 2023 will only cost $200.
That's 20% off! And only for these five sets, if bought before June 16th.
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Trinten
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JUN 14, 07:44 AM
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Just a few days left in my sale!
Once these five are sold, there will be a pause in production. I'll need to order more motors and put them through all the modifications, and won't have time to do any of that till I'm back from the 40th!
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MulletproofMonk
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JUN 15, 09:21 AM
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Trinten
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JUN 15, 10:11 PM
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Four sets left!
More motors have been ordered. With luck, I'll be have time to modify them and have more to bring with me to the 40th.
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Trinten
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JUN 18, 01:00 AM
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Three sets left right now.
With the trip to Carlisle coming up (and the 40th shortly after that), I'm going to put a pause on taking any more online orders until after the 40th. If you are going to Carlisle, I won't be able to sell them on the show grounds, but I will bring a set or two with me and keep them at the hotel if anyone is interested in seeing them in person and buying a set there.[This message has been edited by Trinten (edited 06-18-2023).]
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Trinten
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JUN 28, 04:03 PM
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I now have 8 sets in stock.
I will be taking orders through July 7th, so I can get everything shipped out before heading up to the 40th. I plan on bringing some sets with me to the 40th, so if you'd like to see them and buy a set in person, you'll be able to.
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