For Sale - Version 3 - Embrace Racing Flushmount Quad Bi-Xenon Headlights (Page 1/2)
fieroguru SEP 17, 09:07 PM
I am to the point where I can be talked out of my new/never installed Version 3 Embrace Racing Flushmount Quad Bi-Xenon Headlights.


Purchased on Oct 16th 2021 as part of the Version 3 launch and this is the last production version.
In Nov. 2021 they were removed from the original packaging, all hardware bolts/nuts were replaced with stainless steel, and they were loosely assembled prior to be put in climate control storage. .
They will come with 2 sets of Xentec 35w HID Xenon Conversion Kits, Bulb Size: 9006 / HB4, Color Output: Diamond White (6000K)
They will come with the 26pg installation document as well.

Open to offers over $1000 shipped & insured in the US.

PM or email @ fieroguruperformancellc@gmail.com

BingB SEP 18, 09:26 AM
Thermoforming is not rocket science. Especially small stuff like this with no sharp corners. If these sell for over $1K I would think someone would start making them again.

Not many people would be willing to pay $1K, but I bet there would be several buyers at a lower price point.

I will be watching with interest. I don't like pop-up headlights, but I will be driving my car a lot at night so I need something that is functional as well as better looking.

fieroguru SEP 18, 06:24 PM
Look... people are posting that they want these.

I happen to have a set that I could be talked into parting with. $1,000 is the starting point of discussion for me to entertain parting with them.

There are other people with these on the shelf as well, maybe they will be interested in selling at a lower cost than $1,000 and I would welcome that. Best offer so far for my set is $700. Maybe this will entice someone else to let go of their set (if you are reading this, have a set, and willing to let them go for $700, please post in this thread).

Right or wrong the way I see it...
  • This is a high quality conversion with a one of a kind look
  • People are still very interested in this kit, and only this kit
  • It was the last and best iteration developed, and
  • The website is no longer active, so we have likely seen the last of them unless someone buys the molds.


As a Fiero vendor of custom parts, to make a kit of this caliber will cost more the $10,000 in the upfront tooling and R&D. If you profit $100 per set, the first 100 sets have to be sold before you ever turn a profit. It will likely take 5+ years to sell that many sets, if ever.

Remember, there is a reason these kits are no longer available... The person who had the tooling and was best setup to make them at the lowest cost stopped doing it. Maybe life got in the way, or interests shifted, but it could be that the economics simply are not there at the original price point.
Vintage-Nut SEP 18, 09:35 PM
FYI - fredtoast was banned from the forum and he has a new name......

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NewDustin SEP 19, 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by BingB:

Thermoforming is not rocket science. Especially small stuff like this with no sharp corners. If these sell for over $1K I would think someone would start making them again.

Not many people would be willing to pay $1K, but I bet there would be several buyers at a lower price point.

I will be watching with interest. I don't like pop-up headlights, but I will be driving my car a lot at night so I need something that is functional as well as better looking.


wtf, is there a contest to fit the most bad takes into one comment?
IMSA GT SEP 19, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by NewDustin:

wtf, is there a contest to fit the most bad takes into one comment?



Already addressed

Cliff's server used to ban people based on I.P address which meant if you tried to create another account from the same I.P, the server would ban you. That needs to be implemented again.
IMSA GT SEP 19, 06:42 PM
Just to clarify what Fieroguru is selling, there are not half-assed headlights like the Munson design. These are high quality headlights. The designer (Chris) studied engineering before developing these headlight kits and here are a couple photos of them with the same 35 watt bulbs that are included in the kit.

The first question people ask is "how much light do you lose in front of the car?" Here's a picture that shows very little light loss:


Here is Chris driving with the 35 watt bulbs. Great coverage but also focused coverage. Not shining into the sky like cheap kits.

[This message has been edited by IMSA GT (edited 09-19-2024).]

Mswilcher SEP 20, 08:54 AM
These are the only flush mount lights I would ever put on a Fiero. I love popups but Embrace made beautiful products. The times I've been ready to pull the trigger, $700 would have been a buy. $1000 isn't far fetched.

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Vintage-Nut SEP 20, 09:42 AM
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A member told me that he just bought a never opened set of the V2 version for $500.
hercimer01 SEP 24, 11:57 PM
The most expensive parts are the headlights themselves. I spent over $250 on Hella projectors and wiring and that was 15 years ago. Post covid its probably over $500 now.

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