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DEC 17, 06:17 PM
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You can read the spin from your favorite story tellers, or go straight to the source: https://www.fisc.uscourts.g...19%2002%20191217.pdf
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This order responds to reports that personnel of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) provided false information to the National Security Division (NSD) of the Department of Justice, and withheld material information from NSD which was detrimental to the FBI's case, in connection with four applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) for authority to conduct electronic surveillance of a U.S. citizen named Carter W. Page. 1 When FBI personnel mislead NSD in the ways described above, they equally mislead the FISC.
In order to appreciate the seriousness of that misconduct and its implications, it is useful to understand certain procedural and substantive requirements that apply to the government's conduct of electronic surveillance for foreign intelligence purposes. Title I of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), codified as amended at 50 U.S.C. §§ 1801-1813, governs such electronic surveillance. It requires the government to apply for and receive an order from the FISC approving a proposed electronic surveillance. When deciding whether to grant such an application, a FISC judge must determine, among other things, whether it provides probable cause to believe that the proposed surveillance target is a "foreign power" or an "agent of a foreign power." See§ 1805(a)(2)(A). Those terms are defined by FISA. See § 1801(a)-(b). A fi nding of probable cause to believe that a U.S. citizen (or other "United States person" as defined at Section 1803(i)) is an agent of a foreign power cannot be solely based on activities protected by the First Amendment. See § 1805(a)(2)(A).
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https://www.foxnews.com/pol...in-rare-public-order
https://www.nbcnews.com/pol...bi-mistakes-n1103451
https://abcnews.go.com/Poli...ng/story?id=67785661
We live in interesting times.
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DEC 17, 09:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
A finding of probable cause to believe that a U.S. citizen is an agent of a foreign power cannot be solely based on activities protected by the First Amendment.
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DEC 17, 09:25 PM
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To bastardize an old adage: Trump is up to his ass in alligators, but has not lost sight of his original objective.
The world's premiere law enforcement agency has been subverted. No one is safe.
Many of us knew this, but far too many others refused to accept reality.
Hopefully, this is one step on a long journey of redemption.[This message has been edited by williegoat (edited 12-17-2019).]
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E.Furgal
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DEC 17, 11:00 PM
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I think, Trump knows what he is doing, he knows he could not drain the swamp in 4 years or even in 8, but If he was able to show, or have the dems and "r's" show the American people, just how deep the swamp is, the we the people might just, want to help drain it. even after he has left public life.
He is being , allowing himself to be a martar to get the swamps actions into the public light.
And the dems and r's (rinos) and media are playing his chess game just like a fiddle.
Yes, yes, the art of the deal.
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DEC 17, 11:35 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
Many of us knew this, but far too many others refused to accept reality...
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Historically, this is easily verifiable; Just search: "Current Accepted Reality"...
EDIT: P.S. Don't forget to type in a year!  [This message has been edited by Boondawg (edited 12-17-2019).]
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williegoat
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DEC 17, 11:48 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
Historically, this is easily verifiable; Just search: "Current Accepted Reality"...
EDIT: P.S. Don't forget to type in a year!
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The year is 2019 and I posted the verification eight days ago in this thread: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/124395.html
The document that I posted at the top of this thread is the initial action taken by the court, which gives the FBI 24 days to produce a plan to clean up their act.
This is not speculation or opinion. This is straight from the USDOJ.[This message has been edited by williegoat (edited 12-17-2019).]
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williegoat
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DEC 17, 11:59 PM
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What it means is that the FBI conspired to overthrow the government. It's really pretty simple and many of us were warning y'all about it.
Now, we await Durham's moves.
Of course, Trump tweets too much and once said "pussy" to someone who was taping him without his knowledge; which is so much worse.[This message has been edited by williegoat (edited 12-18-2019).]
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DEC 18, 07:04 AM
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The FBI has been politically dictating through fear ever since Hoover saw commies under every rock and tree stump in existence.
They exist to enforce a political agenda. Primarily on the USA but they reach over the entire globe. They can Always find an excuse to be wherever they want to further that agenda.[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 12-18-2019).]
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williegoat
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DEC 18, 11:41 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
The FBI has been politically dictating through fear ever since Hoover saw commies under every rock and tree stump in existence.
They exist to enforce a political agenda. Primarily on the USA but they reach over the entire globe. They can Always find an excuse to be wherever they want to further that agenda.
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J.E.Hoover overstepped his bounds. CoIntelPro targeted not only Communists but groups such as the Weathermen, the KKK and the Black Panthers. Although it doesn't excuse the actions of the FBI, these were all terrorist groups.
The FBI exists to investigate crimes which threaten our national security. An investigation should not be initiated until a crime has been identified.
Under Obama, the FBI and the IRS were subverted to target political foes. That is one of the most egregious abuses of power ever undertaken by a president.
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Tony Kania
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DEC 18, 12:06 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
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Under Obama, the FBI and the IRS were subverted to target political foes. That is one of the most egregious abuses of power ever undertaken by a president.
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