Accepting apologizes from all my left-leaning friends... (Page 10/10)
theBDub FEB 09, 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by randye:


Since this is likely to be extremely tedious and also likely to be completely unproductive with you, let's start with what should be the simplest thing:

IF you had the competence to understand what you presumably read you would NOT have ridiculously asked "Has this been peer reviewed?"

1.) The header of the document clearly shows that the study was published by PMC, US National Library of Medicine, National Institutes of Health.
The NLM / NIH peer reviews all studies before they publish them.
In this instance it shows that NLM / NIH chose this study from PMC as they routinely do.




2.) PMC, (PubMed Central), also a part of NIH / NLM, receives medical publications and studies from all over the United States and the world. PubMed peer reviews the manuscripts they receive prior to them publishing them to the NLM




3.) The header of the document also clearly shows that PubMed / PMC received the study from Cureus which utilizes a "post publication peer review system" which the instant matter clearly survived and did so with sufficient credential to be selected and further reviewed by the aforementioned NLM / PMC






4.) And finally, the document also clearly shows that the study received review and approval by the following FIVE entities:



All told this particular study has been peer reviewed at least EIGHT TIMES...

Even a casual, lay, reader should have at least questioned where the study came from as evidenced by it's header, but you are completely oblivious and incurious.....

...and your clear incompetence with the subject matter at hand is then demonstrated with your question: Has this been peer-reviewed?


I'll leave you to go back again and try desperately to ferret out what the "control group" in that study is.

It's clearly there and it's as obvious as the peer review you aren't competent in this area to understand.

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OH, and as I said before:

Dr. Stella Immanuel is still a practicing, board certified, licensed, pediatric and emergency medicine physician in the state of Texas.

She has no actions taken against her by the Texas state licensing or medical ethics boards for any violations or complaints.

She reportedly still successfully treats her patients with SARS COV2 using a regimen that includes HCQ




Thanks for showing me that it had been peer reviewed I have been traveling a lot lately and didn't look very closely from my phone.

It doesn't really address my question about what the study was about. It studied a mix of drugs with Vitamin C compared to that same mix without Vitamin C, correct?
rinselberg FEB 09, 11:32 AM
Here's a recently published research report that's been given a somewhat whimsical title:

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“H” is not for hydroxychloroquine—“H” is for heparin: lack of efficacy of hydroxychloroquine and the role of heparin in COVID-19—preliminary data of a prospective and interventional study from Brazil


Whimsicality: you don't see that everywhere you look in these specialist's publications. What's the inspiration here? Dr Seuss? Alfred Hitchcock?



Oh, about that journal article... published just a few days ago...

“H” is not for hydroxychloroquine—“H” is for heparin: lack of efficacy of hydroxychloroquine and the role of heparin in COVID-19—preliminary data of a prospective and interventional study from Brazil
Renata de Oliveira Costa, et al, for BMC Infectious Diseases; February 4, 2022.
https://link.springer.com/a...6/s12879-022-07110-1


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This study confirmed the absence of a benefit associated with the use of HCQ [hydroxychloroquine] in Brazilian patients hospitalized with COVID-19. However, prophylactic or therapeutic heparin was an independent predictor for reducing mortality in this population.


FWIW

Maybe that's what Trump was reaching for all along: Heparin. It was next to Hydroxychloroquine in his Rolodex, and he just . . .

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rinselberg FEB 11, 03:45 AM
"A peer review is only as good as the peer that reviews."
~ unknown wag
rinselberg FEB 11, 03:35 PM
THIS JUST IN

"Pulmonary Delivery of Aerosolized Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine to Treat COVID-19: In Vitro Experimentation to Human Dosing Predictions."

Kolli AR, et al; AAPS (American Association of Pharmaceutical Scientists) Journal; February 7, 2022.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35132508/

ABSTRACT

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In vitro screening for pharmacological activity of existing drugs showed chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine to be effective against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2. Oral administration of these compounds to obtain desired pulmonary exposures resulted in dose-limiting systemic toxicity in humans. However, pulmonary drug delivery enables direct and rapid administration to obtain higher local tissue concentrations in target tissue. In this work, inhalable formulations for thermal aerosolization of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine were developed, and their physicochemical properties were characterized. Thermal aerosolization of 40 mg/mL chloroquine and 100 mg/mL hydroxychloroquine formulations delivered respirable aerosol particle sizes with 0.15 and 0.33 mg per 55 mL puff, respectively. In vitro toxicity was evaluated by exposing primary human bronchial epithelial cells to aerosol generated from Vitrocell. An in vitro exposure to 7.24 μg of chloroquine or 7.99 μg hydroxychloroquine showed no significant changes in cilia beating, transepithelial electrical resistance, and cell viability. The pharmacokinetics of inhaled aerosols was predicted by developing a physiologically based pharmacokinetic model that included a detailed species-specific respiratory tract physiology and lysosomal trapping. Based on the model predictions, inhaling emitted doses comprising 1.5 mg of chloroquine or 3.3 mg hydroxychloroquine three times a day may yield therapeutically effective concentrations in the lung. Inhalation of higher doses further increased effective concentrations in the lung while maintaining lower systemic concentrations.

Given the theoretically favorable risk/benefit ratio, the clinical significance for pulmonary delivery of aerosolized chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 needs to be established in rigorous safety and efficacy studies.


CONFLICT OF INTEREST STATEMENT

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The authors... have patent applications pending on pharmaceutical composition comprising chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine and uses thereof. All authors are employees of Philip Morris International.



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cliffw FEB 17, 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by cliffw:
My wife (you know Cindi) got Covid. She is 64, overweight, was a life long smoker quit ten years ago) but still gets short of breath.

She did not take HCQ, AZM, zinc, nor vitamin C as a preventative. She took them as a treatment. ... it was over it in less than a week.




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Originally posted by maryjane:
So was my wife. She took nothing but tylenol. Vaccinated x2.



I did not know, but am glad Jane got better and is doing good.

Cindi, double vaxxed and boosted, got Covid again. Can we quit calling it a vaccine ? It is not a preventative, perhaps it's a pre infection treatment.

Cindi is pretty much a hypochondriac. She felt a sore throat and sought a test for Covid. A positive result. I felt no symptoms and did not test.

The first time she got it she masked and quarantined in our bedroom. I did not mask even though our ventilation system circulated the whole home. This time, she did not mask or quarantine, nor did I mask.

We sought another test, this time I tested. She was still positive, I tested negative. She quipped that they should do a study on me as to why I have never contracted Covid, even after being exposed.


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Originally posted by 2.5:
Whats a good source / list of things that treat or speed up covid? Where to get them, etc. They don't seem to advertise that much.



Her Dr prescribed her ivermectin Click to show, aryphmycin, calcium with D3, vitamin C, and zinc.

A few days later, we tested again. We were both positive. My Dr could not prescribe the
ivermectin, . He prescribed me only Paxlovid.

We both finally tested negative.