Shop-Vac (Page 2/2)
Monkeyman NOV 18, 02:36 PM
That sux (no pun intended). Shop-Vac is has been such a household name for so long, they've gotten genericafied (I'm sure that's a word). Like Xerox and Kleenex. People refer to any heavy duty vacuum as a Shop Vac just like any facial tissue is a Kleenex or any copier is a Xerox, no matter what brand someones actually talking about. Sad but it is what it is.
theogre NOV 19, 02:59 AM
Or Bic(US) and Biro(UK) for cheap pens.
maryjane NOV 19, 07:13 AM

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Originally posted by Monkeyman:

That sux (no pun intended). Shop-Vac is has been such a household name for so long, they've gotten genericafied (I'm sure that's a word). Like Xerox and Kleenex. People refer to any heavy duty vacuum as a Shop Vac just like any facial tissue is a Kleenex or any copier is a Xerox, no matter what brand someones actually talking about. Sad but it is what it is.



Thirsty...
Want a coke?
Sure.
What kind?
Monkeyman NOV 19, 08:50 AM

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Originally posted by maryjane:


Thirsty...
Want a coke?
Sure.
What kind?



Yes except that's a bit regional. Down here in the south, everything is a Coke. When I was in Indiana, everything was a "pop". Farther north and on the east coast, it's a 'soda". Confused me when I moved down here a few years ago. Someone asked if I wanted a "Coke". I didn't so I declined then I asked for a pop. They looked at me a bit funny.
williegoat NOV 19, 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by Monkeyman:

Someone asked if I wanted a "Coke". I didn't so I declined then I asked for a pop. They looked at me a bit funny.


As a southerner by birth, I got a chuckle out of that.

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theogre APR 07, 10:12 AM
Has Reopen but now Chinese Owns them.
"Shop-Vac rebounds in Pa. under Chinese ownership after near-death experience"
https://www.inquirer.com/bu...-china-20210919.html

Search the web in news for more.

My guess is, besides shipping cost, Only real reason still have a US factory is China is still locking down for Failed Zero Covid and killing their own economy on top of sanctions etc...

Now you can get most Filters etc again at https://www.shopvacstore.com
Most other stores have not gotten shopvac units or parts and many won't any time soon because already filled old shelf space w/ other product. Like Walmart w/ Hart Brand.

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Hank is Here APR 07, 12:53 PM
I am not going to pass judgement....yet. As the article outlines they bought shop vac from the dead and have the factory running again and the brand not extinct. As the article also states the recently bought SK tools and moved the operations from Chicago to Williamsport; however that move has not gone well. It is still be be seen if they will manufacture in Williamsport or if they will just distribute foreign made tools from there. Either way the SK brand will still be alive for it's 101st year.

On the flip side the old owners of SK was Ideal industries which owned other tool manufacturers ( not marketers) such as Wester Forge and Pratt Reed. Unlike SK which was sold to GreatStar, WK and PR were simply closed and had their facilities auctioned off.

Having new foreign ownership may be good as their could provide an influx of cash to upgrade manufacturing processes and equipment which stagnated and wore out equipment on thin margins where the old owners could not afford to invest.

This is all on the flip side to Aerican owned businesses such as Bain Capital management who but a brand/company pillage it to assets, close it and then off shore manufacturing.

I am just withholding judgement yet to see how this unfolds.

I foresee global companies, due to COVID/global conflicts or events, regionalizing manufacturing footprints into three regions....N/S America, Europe/Arfrica, and Asis/Pacific rim. This will shorten supply chains, and build in redundancy for if there is a disruption in another region.
RWDPLZ APR 08, 11:27 AM
If companies were intelligent, the past 2 years would have taught them they need to ON-shore manufacturing. But there will always be a bean counter telling his bosses "We can save $0.02/unit moving manufacturing to China" and all the brain-dead executives see is that bottom line.
theogre APR 08, 07:19 PM

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Originally posted by RWDPLZ:
If companies were intelligent, the past 2 years would have taught them they need to ON-shore manufacturing. But there will always be a bean counter telling his bosses "We can save $0.02/unit moving manufacturing to China" and all the brain-dead executives see is that bottom line.

Oh They learn to move out of China and some Many Years ago... They Move to other "3rd World" places including Vietnam.
Even Foxconn the real makers of Apple Dell and others look(ed) at them and more robots before the virus panic.
Some Other Chinese companies looked at same before CCP and Xi started to arrest owners for "corruption" etc.

Go and look at labels on clothes and shoes in last 10+ years and see many are make anywhere else that's cheaper then China and allows sweatshops.

And isn't just CEO and Boards... When public companies don't use cheapest labor and worse expect a Shareholder Lawsuit costing Many Millions of $.
ls3mach APR 11, 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by Monkeyman:

That sux (no pun intended). Shop-Vac is has been such a household name for so long, they've gotten genericafied (I'm sure that's a word). Like Xerox and Kleenex. People refer to any heavy duty vacuum as a Shop Vac just like any facial tissue is a Kleenex or any copier is a Xerox, no matter what brand someones actually talking about. Sad but it is what it is.



They're called eponyms. To be honest with you, I was today years old when I found out that wasn't actually what the machines are called. I didn't know this was a commercial name. What is their technical name then?

I liked my blue one. I want to think it was Kobqlt (Lowe's brand). I bought the largest they had and while whoever mentioned it about storage and being a hassle, you're never going to convince me overkill isn't still a kill. I tend to do this with all my purchases. Either bottom of the barrel one and done or I invest in the good stuff.

Got lucky i didn't "invest in the good stuff" with the Bosch 36v cordless line. What happened with that anyway? I didn't buy them because the radio didn't charge the batteries (turns out no brand did at the time, no idea about now) and my buddy pointed out to me if it binds a good chance that much power will snap my wrist or injur am arm if I didn't bother to set the clutch. I ended up going Rigid to replace all my old NiCad stuff. I went with it because I had just outfitted my work with them and I knew all the accessories would swap out even though a different generation. That 1/2" impact is probably the most awesome tool I rarely get to use.


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