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2.5
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JUL 13, 02:49 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
'they'?
Is that code for 'people not like me (us)' ?
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No its code for anyone doing it. 
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JUL 13, 02:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
It should not be omitted or marginalized of course, that 'we' are still engaged in our own kind of tribalism today, attempting to bring 'them' into 'our' societal fold. Make 'them' think and act like 'us'.
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If you refer to "us" as the USA, and that we would rather folks not dismantle the USA. Then yes.
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2.5
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JUL 13, 02:59 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
There is nothing inherently wrong with tribalism, just as diversity has no intrinsic value. It is when those ideas stand in the way of freedom or progress that they become a tool of evil.
Progress is often fueled by dissension. The value of diversity lies in free and open discussion, the exploration rather than the suppression of ideas. The proof, however, is in the implementation. We learn from our mistakes, some of us, anyway. |
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WELL SAID
| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
... some went along ..because they didn't know any better...
...there were many who saw it as an outlet...
...the destruction was allowed to happen because many did not care enough to learn why ... |
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Sad but true.[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 07-15-2021).]
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maryjane
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JUL 14, 08:01 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
It should not be omitted or marginalized of course, that 'we' are still engaged in our own kind of tribalism today, attempting to bring 'them' into 'our' societal fold. Make 'them' think and act like 'us'. |
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
If you refer to "us" as the USA, and that we would rather folks not dismantle the USA. Then yes. |
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'We' vs 'them/they'.
Which brings us right back to my question:
| quote | 'they'?
Is that code for 'people not like me (us)' |
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'Dismantle'?
In your own words and thoughts (and not those of some Youtube influencer) what do you mean by 'dismantle'?[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 07-14-2021).]
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maryjane
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JUL 14, 08:08 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
... some went along ..because they didn't know any better...
...there were many who saw it as an outlet...
...the destruction was allowed to happen because many did not care enough to learn why ... |
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
Sad but true.
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The holocaust?
Or Jan 6, 2021?
"It all depends whose ox is being gored"[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 07-14-2021).]
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williegoat
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JUL 14, 09:19 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
The holocaust?
Or Jan 6, 2021?
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Both.
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2.5
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JUL 14, 09:53 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
'We' vs 'them/they'.
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Here is another confusing way to say it, see what you think:
Freedom loving, willing to work for it, defend it, fight for it, and understand what it took for it to exist.
Vs those anti that. (for lack of better terms)
If you would like to argue the merits of that or claim "they" (either) dont exist go ahead and do that.
They isnt a dirty word, and shouldnt be a trigger word.
"They- used to refer to two or more people or things previously mentioned.
Used with a singular antecedent to refer to an unknown or unspecified person.
Ex: An employee with a grievance can file a complaint if they need to."
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
'Dismantle'?
In your own words and thoughts (and not those of some Youtube influencer) what do you mean by 'dismantle'?
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"Dismantle - to destroy the integrity or functioning of, to disconnect the pieces of
Synonyms - break down, demount, disassemble, dismember, dismount, knock down, strike, take down"
Its almost like you all of a sudden noticed I'm posting?
Take a look at all my past threads, it will give you an idea. I would think if something was offensive you would have brought it up then. You could also post a reply in them. If you are looking for me to clarify for you and others thanks. I consider my previous posts clarification though, unless in instances of a newbie. If you have a specific question please just ask.
How many ways/things can you come up with that are going on that arent good for the USA? Those things. People that do and encourage those things.
The post above where I said WELL SAID, could be a hint as well.
Bill of rights violations? The disintegration of families? Racism? Censorship? Post modernism? Enabling mental illness? Gun control? Uh, abuse of tax funds? I mean the list is quite long.[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 07-14-2021).]
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JUL 14, 09:59 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
The holocaust?
Or Jan 6, 2021?
"It all depends whose ox is being gored"
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Doesnt matter whose OX.
...Unless there is an agenda...
On principle these are bad reasons regardless:
.. going along ..because they didn't know any better...
...using something just it as an outlet to act out...
...allowing something to happen because they didnt not care enough to learn why ...
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rinselberg
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JUL 14, 05:05 PM
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2.5
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JUL 14, 05:33 PM
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As does my reply there in that other thread...
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