UK Inches Closer To Eliminating Private Car Ownership (Page 2/2)
82-T/A [At Work] DEC 29, 02:57 PM
Can we acknowledge for a moment, that "cars" make up 10-11% of the total supposed "carbon footprint" / fossil fuel burning? 11%... yet we seem to be focusing like 70-80% of our efforts on that 11%... on the very people who elect these people.

I have to say, this is the mark of the radical left, spend 99% of your efforts on 1% of the problem, and wonder why nothing ever gets done.

Seriously, why not invest in Gen-3 / 4 nuclear power, and eliminate coal and diesel plants. Not wind farms... they're great, but they require petroleum to manufacture as well. We're creating more environmental damage by focusing on 11% of the problem.


These are not hard problems, and I never, ever, understand why politicians make it seem like everything they're doing is so complicated. Trump got into office, and literally started tackling problems that we all knew existed that everyone said was too hard, and even with every media and Democrat (and many Republican) politicians doing absolutely everything in their power to stop him, he still managed to get a lot of this agenda done.


Politicians are either completely retarded and I'm just totally brilliant, or politicians are not at all doing what they were elected to do.

2.5 DEC 29, 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by Wichita:

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I see this trend, NOT REVERSING. It is a pipe dream to think that it will. We are going full electric folks and robo taxies will be normal.




No doubt they think this will work, and even if it wont they seem to plan to force it. I've yet to hear anyone exaplain how it works in (among other places) rural northern winters.


blackrams DEC 29, 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

Can we acknowledge for a moment, that "cars" make up 10-11% of the total supposed "carbon footprint" / fossil fuel burning? 11%... yet we seem to be focusing like 70-80% of our efforts on that 11%... on the very people who elect these people.

I have to say, this is the mark of the radical left, spend 99% of your efforts on 1% of the problem, and wonder why nothing ever gets done.

Seriously, why not invest in Gen-3 / 4 nuclear power, and eliminate coal and diesel plants. Not wind farms... they're great, but they require petroleum to manufacture as well. We're creating more environmental damage by focusing on 11% of the problem.


These are not hard problems, and I never, ever, understand why politicians make it seem like everything they're doing is so complicated. Trump got into office, and literally started tackling problems that we all knew existed that everyone said was too hard, and even with every media and Democrat (and many Republican) politicians doing absolutely everything in their power to stop him, he still managed to get a lot of this agenda done.


Politicians are either completely retarded and I'm just totally brilliant, or politicians are not at all doing what they were elected to do.




Politicians conduct themselves as they do for two reasons, either they are listening to their voter base or, in some way or another they will profit from their stated and voting positions. I think you're correct about the "Left". But there's not much I can do about it.

Rams
MidEngineManiac DEC 29, 03:12 PM
Honestly, in the next 20 years I can see a YUUUGGEEEE societal shift away from the need for personal transportation.

Between automation, work-from-home, guaranteed basic income (it's coming, like it or not) and delivery services there will be no NEED for it.

We are already 1/2-way there. Personally, the only things i really "shop" for anymore is fresh produce, meats, bread, milk, cheese...the perishables. The rest (dry and canned/packaged stuff) I just throw on my monthly Amazon order and let them deal with the grief of finding it. I can even get my smokes and beer delivered if I really want. All those delivery fees (free shipping in most cases) STILL add up cheaper per month than owning a vehicle.

Commute for work ? How much does that cost you in out-of-pocket (after tax $) 15k a year ? 25 ?? Deduct that PLUS the taxes off your pay and that's how much less you can afford to work for close to home. PLUS you have ditched the stress and time involved in long-distance commuting.

GBI, like the idea or hate it, the simple fact is that it is CHEAPER than the current system of social programs, each with their own administration costs, rules, problems, and 6 times the administration and overhead needed for a streamlined system.

The past 2 years have really shown, and proven, how silly and economically wasteful a lot of our transportation-related activities are. It wont take much beyond a few "tweaks" for that 'great reset" to happen, and really the only ones really adversely affected would be us rural types.

https://lfpress.com/news/ca...ey-want-to-work-poll

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rinselberg DEC 29, 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

Can we acknowledge for a moment, that "cars" make up 10-11% of the total supposed "carbon footprint" / fossil fuel burning? 11%... yet we seem to be focusing like 70-80% of our efforts on that 11%... on the very people who elect these people.

I have to say, this is the mark of the radical left, spend 99% of your efforts on 1% of the problem, and wonder why nothing ever gets done.

Seriously, why not invest in Gen-3 / 4 nuclear power, and eliminate coal and diesel plants. Not wind farms... they're great, but they require petroleum to manufacture as well. We're creating more environmental damage by focusing on 11% of the problem.

These are not hard problems, and I never, ever, understand why politicians make it seem like everything they're doing is so complicated. Trump got into office, and literally started tackling problems that we all knew existed that everyone said was too hard, and even with every media and Democrat (and many Republican) politicians doing absolutely everything in their power to stop him, he still managed to get a lot of this agenda done.

Politicians are either completely retarded and I'm just totally brilliant, or politicians are not at all doing what they were elected to do
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Scrolling through even a brief report on the Build Back Better Act reveals that there's much more that's baked into it, besides electric cars and trucks, in so far as trying to put the brakes on the real and unwelcome acceleration of man-made global warming. So not just electric cars and trucks. Electric cars and trucks, plus a whole lot more.

"Climate provisions in Build Back Better Act will be critical to decarbonize US economy"
Dan Lashof and Devashree Sheva for The Hill; December 15, 2021.
https://thehill.com/opinion...-will-be-critical-to

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blackrams DEC 29, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Scrolling through even a brief report on the Build Back Better Act reveals that there's much more that's baked into it, besides electric cars and trucks, in so far as trying to put the brakes on the real and unwelcome acceleration of man-made global warming. So not just electric cars and trucks. Electric cars and trucks, plus a whole lot more.

"Climate provisions in Build Back Better Act will be critical to decarbonize US economy"
Dan Lashof and Devashree Sheva for The Hill; December 15, 2021.
https://thehill.com/opinion...-will-be-critical-to




Yeah, and a whole lot of pork for Dem special interests.

Rams