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maryjane
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SEP 26, 04:33 PM
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Rinse will be along shortly to explain everyone is full of feces and EVs and other green things are the greatest thing since ripped apart bread.
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rinselberg
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SEP 26, 07:21 PM
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I think something I just posted in the Politics & Religion section can serve here as well, considering that remark from maryjane.
| quote | | Equatic catalyzes and powers the green economy. Our seawater electrolysis couples carbon dioxide removal (CDR) from the atmosphere with the production of green hydrogen at the lowest costs. |
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https://www.equatic.tech/
"Equatic" is a new name for what had been the "SeaChange" project.
| quote | | Equatic has developed an electrolytic process for atmospheric carbon dioxide removal that leverages the size and scale of the oceans. The process stabilizes carbon dioxide permanently in the form of dissolved bicarbonate ions (in seawater), and in the form of solid mineral carbonates. Moreover, the process produces hydrogen—a green fuel—as a co-product that generates revenue and clean energy. |
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I think that efforts (like Equatic) to use engineering to remove large amounts of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere are going to be a "thing." It's seen as a way to counteract the planet-warming effects of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions from fossil fuels and so many other human activities and processes.
I don't think that the efforts to reduce carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions are going to have a large enough impact, in and of themselves, to keep the planet from "losing its cool."
To which I would like to add, for this thread, that even if the current ambitions to replace Internal Combustion Engine vehicles with EVs prove out to exceed many people's expectations, I think there will still be a powerful desire for large scale removal of CO2 molecules from the atmosphere, in the way that is envisioned here by Equatic, or other similarly ambitious geo-engineering schemes.
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theogre
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SEP 27, 09:20 AM
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IMSA GT
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SEP 27, 10:13 PM
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We had one run away at our newest battery storage site in Moss Landing California. The fire department basically showed up and hosed the surrounding battery enclosures with water to keep them cool while the fire burned itself out.
 [This message has been edited by IMSA GT (edited 09-27-2023).]
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ray b
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SEP 28, 10:53 AM
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where did you find that it was LiFeP and NOT Cobalt cells
as all I read said the older burnable cells were used in the power station and walls
why the hate
it is just a battery not an evil plot
DUG A BIT
cells did not cause the fire
cooling system failed plus sparks
still even in a tec PDF no chemistry listed in the fire report
I have seen one and one only LiFeP fire
and that required a big pouch style cell
and a steel bar penetration of the cell
nothing like a tesla car fire with cobalt cells[This message has been edited by ray b (edited 09-28-2023).]
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theogre
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SEP 29, 07:37 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
why the hate
it is just a battery not an evil plot |
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All Battery Backup Waist Energy to Charge & Discharge. Over a short time often lost power is > final power output to whatever.
& Why even Huge IT "Farms" only used this only as Time Bump to Start Diesel generator(s) &or Gas Turbines.
Is Scam for just about anything else including Grid Power as Megapack et al claims will work for Decades.
see https://www.fiero.nl/forum/.../HTML/128230.html#p9
Many of you have or had APC etc Small UPS to run a PC so won't crash when power dies.
Had because because battery only last ~ 2-3 years & if still "on" most have near or total dead battery. Most won't buy a new unit or new Battery for them because of Cost.
Everything that small units have, Megapack is same but way bigger to handle 3 phase power.
Worse because Needs "Water" cooling & more to waist more of Energy so In vs Out will see way Bigger loses.
That If the place works 100%... They never will.
This case isn't even finished & "on line" & burn 1 or more battery packs.
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cliffw
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SEP 30, 11:15 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I think something I just posted in the Politics & Religion section can serve here as well, considering that remark from maryjane. |
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You do think everyone is full of feces and EVs and other green things are the greatest thing since ripped apart bread.
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rinselberg
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SEP 30, 01:03 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
You do think everyone is full of feces and EVs and other green things are the greatest thing since ripped apart bread. |
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Thanks for reminding me! I had this in my "queue" but I'd forgotten about it—until cliffw jogged my memory here.
Equatic, a UCLA spin-off, recently announced a "big effing deal" with Boeing. Boeing has contracted with Equatic to remove CO2 from the atmosphere and safely sequester it in the world's oceans, using an electrolysis process that also produces "green" hydrogen at the same time.
The Equatic process does not cause any Ocean Acidification, which is what happens when seawater absorbs CO2 directly from the atmosphere. That's because the Equatic process converts the CO2 into chemically inert carbonate compounds that are already part and parcel of the world's oceans. No fish, whale or coral reef will ever even notice... "Like It Never Even Happened."
Boeing's pre-purchase option agreement is for 62,000 metric tons of CO2 removal, and 2,100 metric tons of "carbon-negative" hydrogen that Boeing is eyeing as a feedstock for climate-friendly jet fuel.
Boeing may be able to receive carbon offset tax credits for this, which could lower the corporate behemoth's tax liabilities, if sought-after changes in the relevant laws and regulatory rules are obtained.
Obviously, this is a pilot project to smoke test the effectiveness of Equatic's electrolysis technology, to validate its readiness for prime time, by setting it up for what is clearly just a drop in the bucket, in terms of how much CO2 will be removed from the atmosphere, and how much carbon-negative hydrogen will be produced.
Axios was one of the media outlets that reported this story.
"CO2 removal startup lands Boeing deal"
Ben Geman for Axios; May 31, 2023.
https://www.axios.com/2023/...artup-equatic-boeing
CNN's Richard Quest, whose thick British accent is always worth the price of admission, and Equatic principal advisor Lorenzo Corsini had a memorable on-air "chin wag" about it, just a month after the agreement was announced.
YouTube video content, 4 minutes plus 35 seconds. Air date June 21, 2023.
https://youtu.be/KRrw3Nyg9s8
You can't make this stuff up!
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maryjane
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OCT 01, 01:59 PM
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Patrick
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OCT 01, 08:21 PM
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Interesting. I'm so glad the provincial government years ago invested in hydro-electric here, which is now a relatively inexpensive source of power.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 10-02-2023).]
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