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lurker
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JUN 08, 03:14 AM
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it's sort of interesting to read the links.
some of them say there's global warming, but that human causation is minimal.
some of them say there's global warming, and no human causation.
some of them say there's no global warming at all
lots of them really, really hate al gore.
makes me wonder what would they would say if al changed sides.
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fierobear
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JUN 08, 03:30 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by lurker:
makes me wonder what would they would say if al changed sides. |
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They'd have to hate themselves, too. 
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Tha Driver
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JUN 08, 04:41 AM
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Videos don't show in my browser, & even if they did it would take FOREVER for them to load. My LOUSY didl-up usually loads at between 1.5 to 3 kps.
Paul[This message has been edited by Tha Driver (edited 06-08-2008).]
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Tha Driver
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JUN 08, 04:43 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Formula88:
Please answer the question. If you feel the question doesn't deserve an answer, please state why. |
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Because it's assinine?
Paul
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AusFiero
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JUN 08, 07:15 AM
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From all the data I have seen the graph in this thread covers it pretty well. Seems every time there has been significant volcanic activity the temperate rises. Overlay that over C02 charts and the C02 has been a result of the warming. Not the cause.
Of course we should reduce pollution for our own good and perhaps we have contributed to global warming to some extent. But I definatly don't think we are the root cause of it.
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rogergarrison
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JUN 08, 08:04 AM
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Id tend to believe Nostrodamus before Gore. At least some of his stuff ' can ' sorta be verified. Ive determined thru my own investigation that Mars died due to global warming. The red surface is due to the rust residue from all the Martian SUVs that caused it. 
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Toddster
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JUN 08, 09:25 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Pyrthian:
not one person here is "for" pollution. |
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I think sums it up right there. People forget that the root of conservative is "conserve". If there is a cheaper, faster, better, more efficient way to do something I am all for it. And More efficient processes inherently mean less pollution. An engine that is tuned perfectly with No Smog equipment is STILL cleaner than the average car on the road. I am also for new technologies that will reduce pollution of air and water and I am for them as soon as is practicable.
The problem with AGW drones is that it is about power. I find it really annoying that every time the subject of AGW comes up the issue of increased government spending, greater powers, and increased taxes is not far behind the rhetoric.
AGW IS a modern cult with the backing of the media. And people who do not understand climatology (about 99.5% of the population) are being asked to pick a team. Well, when you have a predisposition to believe one person or another you are inclined to follow their lead even without the facts to support it.
This is the scariest part of all.
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maryjane
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JUN 08, 09:33 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Tha Driver:
Videos don't show in my browser, & even if they did it would take FOREVER for them to load. My LOUSY didl-up usually loads at between 1.5 to 3 kps.
Paul
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Ditto for me. Sorta. They show in my browser, they are just horribly slow to load. What is really aggrevating, is they attempt to run down in the 'review' part of the reply window while I'm typing out my reply.
I do believe in global warming, and I do believe we as a race contribute to it at least a little. I also believe the warming will continue with or without us, and without us, the effect on the warming will be negligible.
I also believe that it is June, and it's supposed to be hot as heck in Texas--which it is. I personally don't see a whole lot of difference in 98 deg and 102 deg--nor do I see any difference in June 2008 and June 1958--wih is when I was 8 years old. Hot now and hot then. And, since General Phil Sheridan--back in the 1800s, commented on the Texas heat, I doubt it was much cooler 140 yrs ago.
"If I owned Hell and Texas, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell."
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Formula88
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JUN 08, 09:56 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Tha Driver:
Because it's assinine?
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Why is it asinine?
Here's the thing - we know that anyone who gets in the ocean will raise the sea level. But nobody is worried about it because we also know the difference is so minuscule we can ignore it.
Your argument is very similar. You say we know CO2 adds to global warming, so we should do what we can to reduce it. But we don't know how much effect it has. Is man's CO2 output a major problem, or does it make about as much difference as jumping in the ocean does to sea levels?
You say my question is asinine, but the logic behind the question is the exact same that you're using. It's no more asinine than your position on global warming.
Is our affect on the atmosphere throwing gasoline on a fire, or is it more like a fart in a hurricane?
I'm in favor of reducing pollution because I like clean air and water.
I'm in favor of alternative fuels because I'm tired of our economy being enslaved to foreign governments.
Global warming has nothing to do with either of those. If global warming were positively, unequivocally proven false and the entire world agreed - I'd still be in favor of clean air and alternative fuels.[This message has been edited by Formula88 (edited 06-08-2008).]
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Toddster
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JUN 08, 10:00 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Formula88:
Why is it asinine?
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Because when you run out of bullets you throw the gun.
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