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JUN 08, 11:20 PM
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Videos don't show in my browser, & even if they did it would take FOREVER for them to load. My LOUSY didl-up usually loads at between 1.5 to 3 kps.
Paul
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dont worry about it, its supposed to be funny, *eg not scientific* so it has no importance in this thread.
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FieroFanatic13
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JUN 09, 09:35 AM
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Just something regarding Global Warming that I read in Newsweek last fall, and THIS is why I have a hard time listening to a majority of the people I run into or read about who are big time "activists" in this area.
To sum it up, the column in Newsweek said that...
Shortly after Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, Global Warming Alarmists warned of a "worst on record hurricane season" that was looming DUE TO GLOBAL WARMING. Well, guess what. It DIDN'T HAPPEN. In fact, the actual hurricane season was about typical to mild. But the kicker? Guess what those SAME people, after figuring out that their prognostications did not come true said?
THEY SAID THAT THE LACK OF A MAJOR HURRICANE SEASON ONLY PROVED GLOBAL WARMING WAS REAL BECAUSE GLOBAL WARMING MAKES THE WEATHER TOO UNPREDICTABLE.
Yes. THEY SAID IT...Apparently with a straight face. Must be nice to have it BOTH WAYS. You can't win this argument with those who are "activists" who believe in global warming because they simply say "I reject your reality no matter how factually based it is and substitute my own."[This message has been edited by FieroFanatic13 (edited 06-09-2008).]
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fierobear
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JUN 09, 10:19 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by FieroFanatic13:
THEY SAID THAT THE LACK OF A MAJOR HURRICANE SEASON ONLY PROVED GLOBAL WARMING WAS REAL BECAUSE GLOBAL WARMING MAKES THE WEATHER TOO UNPREDICTABLE.
Yes. THEY SAID IT...Apparently with a straight face. Must be nice to have it BOTH WAYS. You can't win this argument with those who are "activists" who believe in global warming because they simply say "I reject your reality no matter how factually based it is and substitute my own."
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Oh, absolutely. They'll NEVER admit their enviro-religion is wrong. Another example is what they said after evidence was presented about the latest solar cycle, lack of sunspots, and the flat global temperatures (lack of overall warming) over the last 8 years. Rather than admit, or at least acknowledge, that the sun may be driving changes in climate, their answer? ... "the sun is just overriding what man is doing". *sigh*
But back to hurricanes. There have been a number of hurricane experts saying that hurricanes *won't* increase in number. Gosh, I'm so glad the debate is over and the science is settled... 
Global Warming to Decrease Hurricanes, Study Says:
http://news.nationalgeograp...0519-hurricanes.html
Warmer Ocean Could Reduce Number Of Atlantic Hurricane Landfalls
http://www.sciencedaily.com.../01/080124115808.htm
Those are just a couple of links. There are more.
One problem with the idea that the "oceans are warming" is that...they aren't. At least not according to NASA's Argo system of 3,000 buoys, designed to gather temperature data. Note the following article from NPR, of all places. Also note their bewilderment as to how the data could be showing something other than warming...
The Mystery of Global Warming's Missing Heat
http://www.npr.org/template...php?storyId=88520025
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Toddster
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JUN 09, 02:06 PM
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randye
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JUN 09, 06:36 PM
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You know what's coming next don't you? 
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rogergarrison
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JUN 10, 08:39 AM
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I also heard the other day that Texas A&M University is banning its annual 6 story bonfire to help eliminate 'global warming' LMFAO.
Maybe everyone should stop having sex...Im sure that contributes a lot to global warming too
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fierobear
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JUN 10, 10:13 AM
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RandomTask
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JUN 10, 02:45 PM
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pokeyfiero
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JUN 10, 02:51 PM
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Quote from A Seattle Guitarist(apparently a valued opinion on global climate).
"By all means, I'd rather not have bonfires than have global warming," he said.
This demonstrated the level of logical thought. Thank God Seattle had the balls to save the world.(maybe they feel guilty for MT St.Helen's.More co2 came from that then all human combined pollution ever)
Lets keep making electricity with fossil fuels but get rid of bonfires at the beach.
To some this seems very stupid and unbelievable but you have to consider how ignorant the vast majority of the population is.
Even educated people get caught up in this crap. Education does not it seems always translate into logical thought.
'There is also the crowd that doesn't actually believe this crap at all but likes the idea of leading all the lambs to a better way. It thrill them to no end and in fact they will straight out lie and defend bogus science just to keep the lambs going in a certain direction.
Sure we have serious pollution problems and we probably will kill off most of the sea life before we get a clue but why can't we deal with these problems instead of purporting lies about global warming?
Lots of people think they are following a golden dragon and when they find out it is a blue belly lizard they won't be happy. People are going to be very dismayed with the science community when they find out it is in fact a political organization. Politics has washed out with the people so they needed to get a new venue to get the attention. Scientists have really hurt thier credibility as a whole.
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fierobear
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JUN 11, 11:49 PM
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Manhattan Declaration on Climate Change
“Global warming” is not a global crisis
We, the scientists and researchers in climate and related fields, economists, policymakers, and business leaders, assembled at Times Square, New York City, participating in the 2008 International Conference on Climate Change,
Resolving that scientific questions should be evaluated solely by the scientific method;
Affirming that global climate has always changed and always will, independent of the actions of humans, and that carbon dioxide (CO2) is not a pollutant but rather a necessity for all life;
Recognising that the causes and extent of recently-observed climatic change are the subject of intense debates in the climate science community and that oft-repeated assertions of a supposed ‘consensus’ among climate experts are false;
Affirming that attempts by governments to legislate costly regulations on industry and individual citizens to encourage CO2 emission reduction will slow development while having no appreciable impact on the future trajectory of global climate change. Such policies will markedly diminish future prosperity and so reduce the ability of societies to adapt to inevitable climate change, thereby increasing, not decreasing human suffering;
Noting that warmer weather is generally less harmful to life on Earth than colder:
Hereby declare:
That current plans to restrict anthropogenic CO2 emissions are a dangerous misallocation of intellectual capital and resources that should be dedicated to solving humanity’s real and serious problems.
That there is no convincing evidence that CO2 emissions from modern industrial activity has in the past, is now, or will in the future cause catastrophic climate change.
That attempts by governments to inflict taxes and costly regulations on industry and individual citizens with the aim of reducing emissions of CO2 will pointlessly curtail the prosperity of the West and progress of developing nations without affecting climate.
That adaptation as needed is massively more cost-effective than any attempted mitigation, and that a focus on such mitigation will divert the attention and resources of governments away from addressing the real problems of their peoples.
That human-caused climate change is not a global crisis.
Now, therefore, we recommend –
That world leaders reject the views expressed by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change as well as popular, but misguided works such as “An Inconvenient Truth”.
That all taxes, regulations, and other interventions intended to reduce emissions of CO2 be abandoned forthwith.
Agreed at New York, 4 March 2008.
List of the signers (153 climate or climate related scientists so far) of the Manhattan Declaration
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