The evidence against anthropogenic global warming (Page 6/600)
fierobear JUN 11, 11:52 PM
Here is a good info site: http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/news.php

They post links to news stories and scientific papers. Good site.
Raydar JUN 12, 09:59 PM
A New York Times article from 1993.
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Study of Greenland Ice Finds Rapid Change in Past Climate

By WALTER SULLIVAN

To the astonishment of climate specialists, an analysis of ice extracted from the full depth of the Greenland ice sheet has shown that except for the 8,000 to 10,000 years since the last glacial epoch, the climate over the past 250,000 years has changed frequently and abruptly.

The findings suggest that the period of stable climate in which human civilization has flourished might be unusual, and that the current climate may get either warmer or colder much more quickly than had been believed -- in spans of decades or even less.


Full article.
Puglet01 JUN 14, 02:32 PM
I was advised by a liberal friend of mine that she believed global warming was caused by people smoking cigarettes. I guess she thinks holding that little glowing butt between the fingers gives off a lot of heat. If that's the case couldn't they just offset that temperature rise by eating an ice cream cone immediately after smoking a cigarette?

I can't believe there are so many people who will swallow this global warming crap hook line and sinker.

If we can raise the temperature we should do it every winter to reduce heating costs and then cool it back down again in the summer.

How about if we all turned on our air conditioners and left all the windows open. We should be able to cool the whole planet down to 72 in a couple weeks. Think how cold we could get it if we left the refrigerator doors open too.

If that doesn't work then we can ban jumping in the ocean.
Jermz238 JUN 14, 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by fierobear:


I didn't start this thread because I don't care. I started it because we're being scammed. Clean the environment, reduce pollution, find an alternative to burning gas...fine. Just don't f***ing LIE to me about it. We're being lied to, and I'm going to show you how.



THIS. This sums up my stance on this topic. why must we have false pretenses in order to make us be environmentally conscious?
fierobear JUN 14, 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by Jermz238:


THIS. This sums up my stance on this topic. why must we have false pretenses in order to make us be environmentally conscious?



Because, to the proponents, it's become a religion. The ends justify the means. That, and they are using the specter of total disaster to get us to go along with this. Scare the s*** out of the public so they'll buy into it.
maryjane JUN 14, 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by fierobear:


Because, to the proponents, it's become a religion. The ends justify the means. That, and they are using the specter of total disaster to get us to go along with this. Scare the s*** out of the public so they'll buy into it.



Global Swarming.

Spektrum-87GT JUN 14, 10:46 PM
Even if global warming isn't being caused by man(I personally don't believe man is causing it), there is still a problem with co2 emissions and the ozone and smog.

I think LA speaks for itself.

I'm not sure what the agenda of the "for global warming" crowd and I'm really not sure what the agenda of the "against global warming crowd" is.

If nothing else, the ideas that the global warming crowd introduce would reduce pollution, which IS a problem.

I mean seriously, what are both sides trying to accomplish?
fierobear JUN 14, 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by Spektrum-87GT:

Even if global warming isn't being caused by man(I personally don't believe man is causing it), there is still a problem with co2 emissions and the ozone and smog.



It's not right to mix up CO2 with ozone and "smog". CO2 isn't a pollutant. It's completely and totally natural. Plant life wouldn't exist without it. It exists in relative abundance in our atmosphere with or without humans. The attempt to regulate it is nothing more than a power play and money grab.

Formula88 JUN 14, 11:17 PM
smog - smoke and fog. Hazy humid days with high particulate matter pollution. That's smog.

CO2 is a natural part of our atmosphere. Plants require it just as we require oxygen.

Ozone is O3 and is a vital part of our atmosphere's ability to protect us from ultraviolet rays. Yes, the same Ozone they warn you about not breathing is the same stuff they tell us we MUST protect to prevent the atmosphere's hole in the Ozone layer from enlarging. It's just at ground level it can be harmful to animals and people. Well, gee, we got rid of everything that damages Ozone to protect the Ozone layer. Maybe we should bring all that stuff back to get rid of the Ozone in cities?

Bottom line - most "climate experts" don't have a flipping clue. Even when they can detect patterns, it's almost impossible for them to trace it to a source and say cars or industry or cow farts are causing it.

I saw an add for a Honda fuel cell vehicle - it's only exhaust byproduct is water vapor. Imagine if every motor vehicle on the planet was like that. Then you'd probably hear about increasing moisture content in the air. Water vapor is also a greenhouse gas and can trap heat. Water vapor is responsible for 36% - 70% of the greenhouse gas effect on Earth. CO2 only causes 9% - 26%. Clearly, if we listen to "science" we should do everything in our power to outlaw water. (the logic is just as sound as the typical global warming sermon)

4-mulaGT JUN 14, 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by Spektrum-87GT:
there is still a problem with co2 emissions and the ozone and smog.
HAHAHAHA




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Originally posted by Formula88:

smog - smoke and fog. Hazy humid days with high particulate matter pollution. That's smog.
actually replace PM with NOx (nitrous oxides) PM is just optical HCs

CO2 is a natural part of our atmosphere. Plants require it just as we require oxygen.

Ozone is O3 and is a vital part of our atmosphere's ability to protect us from ultraviolet rays. Yes, the same Ozone they warn you about not breathing is the same stuff they tell us we MUST protect to prevent the atmosphere's hole in the Ozone layer from enlarging. It's just at ground level it can be harmful to animals and people. Well, gee, we got rid of everything that damages Ozone to protect the Ozone layer. Maybe we should bring all that stuff back to get rid of the Ozone in cities?
According to Anthropogenic OZONE DETERIORATION believers, (ooh I said it...) CFCs themselves dont react with ozone, they need to be split apart by the high UV at the highest parts of the atmosphere to combine with the ozone (deteriorate it)

Of course thats IMPOSSIBLE becuase that would require CFCs to be lighter than "air" which they're not.....


Bottom line - most "climate experts" don't have a flipping clue. no they just had no job after the Ozone and diesel ordeal.... im serious.... Even when they can detect patterns, it's almost impossible for them to trace it to a source and say cars or industry or cow farts are causing it. Word.....

I saw an add for a Honda fuel cell vehicle - it's only exhaust byproduct is water vapor. Vs just Co2 and Water??? Imagine if every motor vehicle on the planet was like that. what was so bad about Co2 again?? Then you'd probably hear about increasing moisture content in the air. yep Water vapor is also a greenhouse gas and can trap heat. more effective at it than CO2 actually Water vapor is responsible for 36% - 70% of the greenhouse gas effect on Earth. CO2 only causes 9% - 26%. Clearly, if we listen to "science" we should do everything in our power to outlaw water. (the logic is just as sound as the typical global warming sermon)



and smog isn't a real problem... the only thing thats a problem in LA is lack of circulation (bowl effect) which causes a buildup of few HCs (smell and watery eyes, boo hoo) and lack of oxygen (which is lighter than Co2)

La is the ONLY place in the US where Emission controls are justified, again due to the "Bowl effect"

I think global warming is popular because that now that they've gotten diesels to emit the same things as modern gasoline engines.........

CO2 and FREAKING WATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They would of been out of the job so they needed something to make up.....

I mean seriously... you cant even flippen kill yourself properly off the stuff anymore..... (at least very quickly...)

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