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blackrams
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APR 08, 08:43 AM
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The illegal alien non-citizen crisis challenge currently at the southern border now?
Lots of children are being tossed over the wall or crossing the desert without their parents. 
Those cages (under the Trump administration) are now again being used with extreme over crowding and no parents to be found. According to the "news", most of the illegal aliens are being given dates to report to hearings and released. Yeah, there's a great plan to keep this country secure.
President Biden is being a nice guy (or so he says). Families are being ripped apart but, that's ok. It's for the children. The border is under a constant overwhelming assault. According to some very biased "leftist" news organizations, some of the kids are being shipped to military bases further north. Yeah, there's a good plan.
I'm curious, feeling a bit stupid, guilty or responsible for supporting someone with absolutely no plan to deal with this? The HMS Secretary is now wanting to fill in the gaps in the wall. What's up with that? I thought the wall was bad. VP Harris is supposedly now in charge of this "challenge" and as yet has not even visited the border. BP agents are begging for help. They are overwhelmed. President Biden has opened Pandora's Box and now we're going to have to deal with his actions. Yeah, I'm pissed about this self induced stupidity.
I feel quite certain all the leftist Biden supporters will be stepping up to foster some of these kids in their own homes. Please raise your hands so we know and can congratulate you.
I'll ask again, feeling stupid, responsible, guilty? Or is this also President Trump's fault.
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olejoedad
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APR 08, 08:52 AM
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I feel none of those emotions, relative to the results of the inauguration of former vice president biden.
Other feelings come to mind; I will keep them to myself.
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sourmash
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APR 08, 09:50 AM
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Those parents are guilty of ripping their families apart. It can end as soon as they go claim the kids.
The goal is to later claim to be the custodial parent when the child is placed somewhere. You can't deport the custodial parent and the custodial parent gets free everything: housing, health insurance, utilities, transportation, education, etc..
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blackrams
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APR 08, 09:57 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
Those parents are guilty of ripping their families apart. It can end as soon as they go claim the kids.
The goal is to later claim to be the custodial parent when the child is placed somewhere. You can't deport the custodial parent and the custodial parent gets free everything: housing, health insurance, utilities, transportation, education, etc.. |
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But, but, but................ President Biden provided the incentive............ He doesn't have a plan but, that apparently doesn't matter. 
Whether you, I, or we like it, we're going to have to deal with this. Thanks Liberals. I hope you're taking these kids in, fostering them till their parents arrive and then help take care of the whole family.
I'm sure Speaker Pelosi will be taking several in (behind her walled in home) and help them get established. How many will you be taking in? 
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 04-08-2021).]
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sourmash
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APR 08, 10:11 AM
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Kinda think the plan is as intended, but it's not going to be openly presented or the stupid people will wake up. Biden was celebratory when saying Whites will soon be a minority.
But I don't think it's his plan. It is a plan though. He's just one of the many willing to sell his remaining soul to get approved to be pResident.
Republicans aren't doing anything about it. Nobody is contesting his dictatorial Exec Orders like they did Trump's.
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Hank is Here
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APR 08, 03:29 PM
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While this may sound harsh... I know what could stop the problem rather quickly....landmines/minefields. Essntially we need to put in place some type of serious consequence for commnig here illiegally instead of offering benefits.
I am not against immigration at all. I am against illegal immigration and blanket issuing of US citizenship. When we look across the pond in the EU there are simlair problems with illegal immagrants from Syria and residents of former ISIS areas. Really the problem is failed/corrupt governments across the world pushing people away, either in terms of seucrity or economics.
What I would propose is a totally differnet fix. Fix the problem with economics. Right now a large percentage of immigrants are Guatemalan. Lets have out government work with Guatemala to incent US companies create manufacturing/processing facilities in Guatemala to offer residents a fair and steady job and adding local economic stability. Hey id there are industries that we can stratigically moe away from China lets do it! Lets take an example of opening recycling/reprocessing in a Guatemala. Lets have them locally process/reprocess plastics waste form teh US that China now refuse to take. The incentives can be written to ensure companies do it on the up and up environmentally, and not just relocate US pollution offshore. Maybe following this plan this may also spur an ethane cracker or a injection molding molding site for a basic product.
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maryjane
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APR 08, 03:38 PM
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There isn't a huge incentive nowadays to recycle plastic.
Oil and therefore virgin plastic is too cheap to make recycling and sorting pay very much.
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blackrams
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APR 08, 03:49 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hank is Here:
While this may sound harsh... I know what could stop the problem rather quickly....landmines/minefields. Essntially we need to put in place some type of serious consequence for commnig here illiegally instead of offering benefits.
I am not against immigration at all. I am against illegal immigration and blanket issuing of US citizenship. When we look across the pond in the EU there are simlair problems with illegal immagrants from Syria and residents of former ISIS areas. Really the problem is failed/corrupt governments across the world pushing people away, either in terms of seucrity or economics.
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You just described the DMZ between North and South Korea.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 04-08-2021).]
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Hank is Here
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APR 08, 04:53 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
You just described the DMZ between North and South Korea.
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That would work! What's the immigraiton between the two Koreas? ...you could probably count he successful attempts annually on your hands.[This message has been edited by Hank is Here (edited 04-08-2021).]
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2.5
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APR 08, 05:21 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
The illegal alien non-citizen crisis challenge currently at the southern border now?
Lots of children are being tossed over the wall or crossing the desert without their parents.
Those cages (under the Trump administration) are now again being used with extreme over crowding and no parents to be found. According to the "news", most of the illegal aliens are being given dates to report to hearings and released. Yeah, there's a great plan to keep this country secure.
President Biden is being a nice guy (or so he says). Families are being ripped apart but, that's ok. It's for the children. The border is under a constant overwhelming assault. According to some very biased "leftist" news organizations, some of the kids are being shipped to military bases further north. Yeah, there's a good plan.
I'm curious, feeling a bit stupid, guilty or responsible for supporting someone with absolutely no plan to deal with this? The HMS Secretary is now wanting to fill in the gaps in the wall. What's up with that? I thought the wall was bad. VP Harris is supposedly now in charge of this "challenge" and as yet has not even visited the border. BP agents are begging for help. They are overwhelmed. President Biden has opened Pandora's Box and now we're going to have to deal with his actions. Yeah, I'm pissed about this self induced stupidity.
I feel quite certain all the leftist Biden supporters will be stepping up to foster some of these kids in their own homes. Please raise your hands so we know and can congratulate you.
I'll ask again, feeling stupid, responsible, guilty? Or is this also President Trump's fault.
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I'm pretty sure they likely fell firmly deeper into cognitive dissonance mode, even more than they were when they just used emotions and denied facts all along before as to the many reasons why we need a secure border.
Either that or they don't even know about it due to lack of quality mainstream media coverage.[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 04-08-2021).]
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