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Rickady88GT
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APR 08, 12:27 PM
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With some much emotion and conflicting information out there, how can I see the bill itself?
Does the law forbid people from getting food or water line line? Or can they get food or water?
Does the law restrict or hinder anyone from voting?
Is Georgia law comparable to other State laws?
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maryjane
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APR 08, 01:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
With some much emotion and conflicting information out there, how can I see the bill itself?
Does the law forbid people from getting food or water line line? Or can they get food or water?
Does the law restrict or hinder anyone from voting?
Is Georgia law comparable to other State laws? |
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It's 95 pages and 2,427 lines long. Most of it is related to the county/state officials and how they are appointed and the over sight of the election process includiong challenges to the outcome, the individual voter's (elector's) qualifactions.
The part about the water just prevent officials or poll watchers from hand delivering any food or drink to the voter. The voter can use any self service means to get something to drink and of course, the voter (elector) can bring their own water.
| quote | "(e) This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer from distributing
1825 materials, as required by law, which are necessary for the purpose of instructing electors
1826 or from distributing materials prepared by the Secretary of State which are designed solely
1827 for the purpose of encouraging voter participation in the election being conducted or from
1828 making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in
1829 line to vote." |
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https://www.legis.ga.gov/ap...ment/20212022/201121[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 04-08-2021).]
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rinselberg
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APR 08, 01:36 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, Georgia's lieutenant governor was on TV yesterday and saying that he didn't like the bill. He characterized it as voter "suppression"; i.e., as being unfairly restrictive and inconvenient for voters, with implicit discrimination built into it against black voters and other racial and ethnic minorities. He was sounding more like a Democrat about it, than like a Republican.
Of course, that puts him at odds with another prominent Republican--Georgia governor Brian Kemp who famously signed the bill into law under a large wall-mounted painting of a Southern plantation, looking very "antebellum." Democrats have railed against it as a "slave plantation." I haven't taken a real close look, but I don't think there are any slaves in the painting. Not sure there are any people depicted in the painting.
I've selected Guns N' Roses (YouTube) as a musical tribute to Georgia state representative Park Cannon (D) who was arrested after knocking repeatedly on the closed door to the governor's office when they were signing the bill. (She wasn't invited for the bill signing ceremony.)
The latest on Park Cannon.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 04-08-2021).]
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rinselberg
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APR 08, 01:44 PM
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Georgia's lieutenant governor Geoff Duncan (R) describing the bill as "fallout" from 10 weeks of "misinformation" from former President Trump and the Trump entourage about (alleged) election shenanigans having caused Georgia's electoral college votes to be fraudulently awarded to Joe Biden.
Steve Benen for MSNBC; April 8, 2021. (Text; not video.)
https://www.msnbc.com/rache...w-based-lie-n1263465
My previous message may be overstating how far the Georgia lieutenant governor went in his remarks about the bill.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 04-08-2021).]
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Jake_Dragon
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APR 08, 01:55 PM
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How is getting an ID racist? Serious question
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williegoat
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APR 08, 02:17 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
How is getting an ID racist? Serious question |
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I am baffled as to how anyone can expect honest elections without requiring an ID.
It is astounding what the left expects adults to believe.
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rinselberg
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APR 08, 02:19 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
How is getting an ID racist? Serious question(.) |
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Great question--for me.
I didn't think anyone had ever gone by the name "Ilya" since the Illya Kuryakin character in the long ago Man From U.N.C.L.E. television series, but here's the Cato Institute's Ilya (just one 'l") Shapiro expounding on the reaction to Georgia's new election law.
"Georgia Election‐Law Backlash Exposes Outrageous Double Standard"
| quote | | Calling laws like Georgia’s “Jim Crow 2.0” is just as dangerous for the confidence the citizenry must have in our electoral processes as spreading myths about illegitimate elections. |
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Ilya Shapiro for the Cato Institue; April 5, 2021.
https://www.cato.org/commen...eous-double-standard
I have not perused this commentary, but I do expect that within it, Ilya Shapiro comes down on the side of more exact requirements for voter ID. A more Republican-leaning way of thinking.
Here's Ilya Shapiro yesterday, in a conversation about it with MSNBC anchor Chris Hayes.
"Shades Of Jim Crow: How GOP Is Using The 'Big Lie' To Roll Back Voting Access"
All In With Chris Hayes of MSNBC; April 7, 2021.
YouTube video content; 12+ minutes.
https://youtu.be/CVbsB_ftgZQ[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 04-08-2021).]
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rinselberg
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APR 08, 02:29 PM
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I just had an epiphany, not for any clearly foreseeable future, but much farther out.
Could there be a way to use Quantum Computing and the esoteric yet very real phenomenon of Quantum Entanglement to set up a personal ID system that would be extremely stringent and reliable, but at the same time, provide a firewall of separation to protect individual privacy and prevent even the smallest realistic possibility of unwarranted government intrusion into this personal ID "space."
A quantum breakthrough for voting and also for the NICS (gun purchase background checks) applications. Not to mention applications for the healthcare and medical care sectors.
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blackrams
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APR 08, 02:30 PM
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Based on reports from a "biased" media, the new GA law is less restrictive than twenty some other states, one of them being President Biden's home state of Delaware.
IMHO, the whole bill is to restore some confidence in the system. Whether or not the last election was fair or rigged, that's water under the bridge. Voters need to believe the system is honest and fair. Confidence in that system was lost, specifically in the state of GA. Something needed to be done.
Now, if only Professional Sports and the NCAA would just get out of social and political issues, we could all go back to living normal lives. With the Baseball All Star Game being moved from Atlanta to Denver in protest, the folks that were hurt were the very people Pro Baseball was supposedly supporting.  There's some really silly people out there. But, had they not done something, a very liberal press would have been all over them. Such is the world we now live in. As with sands in the hour glass, so go the days of our lives.
Rams
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Rickady88GT
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APR 08, 02:44 PM
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| quote | "(e) This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer from distributing
1825 materials, as required by law, which are necessary for the purpose of instructing electors
Or from
1828 making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in
1829 line to vote.[/U]" |
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Doesn't the law say that pole watchers can distribute water?
If the State chooses to set up a water stand.....it is an allowance in the text of the law. Am I wrong?[This message has been edited by Rickady88GT (edited 04-08-2021).]
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